Unoffical FAQ (and suggested answers) thread....

By pumpkin, in The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game

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alpha5099 said:

Tried out Conflict at Carrock tonight, had a couple of questions.

1) Muck Adder attacks me, I have Frodo take the damage, and raise my threat. I do not need to discard Frodo, correct? Because his ability says "cancel the damage," so Frodo was not actually damaged?

2) Roasted Alive is still shuffled back into the encounter deck, even if there is no hero to destroy? It's a then, so the first part needs to resolve completely, but when no one is Sacked, destroying no heroes is the same as destroying all heroes with Sacked.

3) The Carrock's immunity to player card effects is, I assume, pretty much absolute. Can't add progress to it through Lorien Guide or Northern Tracker or Snowborn Scout, can't ignore its threat through Secret Paths? Are there any effects that can affect it, even indirectly? The only one I can think of that might work, at least among the cards I currently own, is Strider's Path -- as that card effect is targeting a just reveal location, I assume I could use it to get The Carrock back to the staging area.

Here's my take:

1) I agree. Since the damage was canceled, no one was "damaged".

2) It's true its a then. The only way it would fail is if there was a hero with Sacked! who didn't get destroyed. "Destroy all heroes with the card Sacked! attached" could legitimately affect zero heroes. I'd say it gets reshuffled in that case.

3) I think it's pretty much absolute. Secret Paths tells you to choose it, so that's out. Strider's Path is an interesting example since The Carrock is only indirectly affected, as a part of the resolution of a different effect, and I'd be inclined to allow it, but I would check with Nate.

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alpha5099 said:

3) The Carrock's immunity to player card effects is, I assume, pretty much absolute. Can't add progress to it through Lorien Guide or Northern Tracker or Snowborn Scout, can't ignore its threat through Secret Paths? Are there any effects that can affect it, even indirectly? The only one I can think of that might work, at least among the cards I currently own, is Strider's Path -- as that card effect is targeting a just reveal location, I assume I could use it to get The Carrock back to the staging area.

The Carrock location also says: "Players cannot travel to The Carrock except through quest card effects." So that seems as absolute as it can get. Even without that statement the "Immune to player card effects." would rule out the card effect from Strider's Path.

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Ah, good point. I agree.

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Thanks for keeping this FAQ thread going! Here are a few suggested clarifications.

Multiple places: Quick Strike card title is two words not QuickStrike.


-----------Quest Phase - Core
3. If a location in the staging area has enough progress tokens on it (from the Northern tracker for instance), is it immediately removed from play, or does it still have to be made an active location, before it is removed?

It is removed from play as soon as it has enough tokens on it. Any suplus go onto the quest as normal.

Edit: Remove last sentence. Surplus tokens from locations in Staging Area do not go onto the quest card.


22. What does "eligible enemy target" mean on the Quick Strike card?

Eligible means "If it was the Combat Phase and you could normally declare that character as an attacker against that enemy." That would mean only Dunhere can attack Enemies in Staging and Ranged characters could attack Enemies engaged with other players. Other characters would have to attack Enemies engaged with you. (Thanks to Apophenia for this concisely worded answer)



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Sorry for the messy post. Is it not possible to put multiple quotes in a post? Also the form seems to track its quote mode separately from the

tags. Quite annoying.
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And now, we need this thread to be moved in the proper category or someone create a new thread with the OP of this one ?

(I dig this thread out from the page 12... Isn't it a shame ?)

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I did add it to the the "links for new players" thread I made.

Maybe this will help keep the tread being noticed.

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Time to revive this thread :-)

I sent 2 questions to FFG, and got answers from Caleb Grace (in a timely manner, thanks!):

Q: When (at which substep of an attack) does "Striking Tentacle" 's forced effect trigger? Before step 2, and just preventing the declaration of a defender, or somewhen after step 2 (so I will want to declare a defender and when the attack is undefended, I also have exhausted that character in vain)

A: The forced effect triggers when it attacks, so that would happen in Step 1, before declaring defenders.

Q: When a hero is shuffled into my deck because of "Lost and Alone" and shall be attached to a Nameless enemy, is it possible? If yes, is his cost considered 0 or do I have to use his threat cost?

A: Yes it is possible. Heroes do not have cost, so it would count as 0.

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this desperately needs to be sticky-d

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HilariousPete said:

Q: When (at which substep of an attack) does "Striking Tentacle" 's forced effect trigger? Before step 2, and just preventing the declaration of a defender, or somewhen after step 2 (so I will want to declare a defender and when the attack is undefended, I also have exhausted that character in vain)

A: The forced effect triggers when it attacks, so that would happen in Step 1, before declaring defenders.

Well, although the answer is sound and consistent with Dol Guldur Beastmaster Forced effect, "When it attacks" trigger is not necessarily applied in step 1. Snow Wargs, for instance, deal damage to decleared defender when they attack, thus their effect has to apply at step 2. I would say "When X attacks" applies as early as possible during the Enemy attack sequence.

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zeb said:

I would say "When X attacks" applies as early as possible during the Enemy attack sequence.

Yes. Either that, or an erratum for Snow Warg…

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Silence.....

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What happens when troll purse or troll key(hobbit scenario) is dealt as a shadow card? Is it dicarded or put into the staging area?

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What happens when troll purse or troll key(hobbit scenario) is dealt as a shadow card? Is it dicarded or put into the staging area?

The only thing that applies to shadow cards is the shadow effect. So if the shadow effect does not say "add this card to the staging area", they are discarded.

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What happens when troll purse or troll key(hobbit scenario) is dealt as a shadow card? Is it dicarded or put into the staging area?

The only thing that applies to shadow cards is the shadow effect. So if the shadow effect does not say "add this card to the staging area", they are discarded.