You gotta love reading these arguments. Next thing ya know they will hire lawyers and file for it to be resolved in civil litigation.

All fun aside. this entire discussion was really interesting and well thought out by everyone involved. Kuddo's to all...

As much as it would be nice to be able to use a bad attachment removal card beneficially, it doesn't really make sense to me. I felt like the card control thing was more to deal with when other players played beneficial cards on you and they didn't really have enemy attachments in mind with that.

I think someone brought up a similar situation in another thread regarding paying for a duplicate card twice with the same resource in reguards to having Protector of Lorien? Or maybe it was a different card? Anyway I don't think you get to lump the cards together just because there are two, I think each is paid and resolves separately. So your payment for the first card is absorbed, leaving the other card requiring payment.

So if the shadow effects of attachment removal do not work, where does it stand with Miner of Iron Hills? I'm assuming Elanor and A Test Of Will would work regardless.

Mestrahd said:

Miner of Iron Hills works perfectly for discarding it. I assume this card is in the core set only because of "Caught in a web".

Miner says "discard 1 Condition attachment from play", so it doesn't say anything about controlling it or not.

I emailed Nate last night about the questions surrounding caught in the web and its removal with enemy effects.

I emailed Nate last night about the questions surrounding caught in the web and its removal with enemy effects.

Did you get a response?

It's already in the FAQ. You can't remove encounter cards attached to you with encounter card effects as you don't control them.