In the current edition of the FAQ, under Choosing Targets in the Card Effects heading, the example talks about discarding Slavering Gug once Jack "Brass" Brady is bounced. This is not right, correct?
I apologize if this is redundant.
Discard Slavering Gug?
This is interesting actually. Didn't it used to be a shotgun blast in the example?
There are a two problems with that text actually:
For example, if Darrin plays the triggered ability on Slavering Gug (Core Set F124) on Tommy’s Jack “Brass” Brady (Core Set F61), Tommy may choose to use Jack “Brass” Brady’s Disrupt: action, which would return him to Tommy’s hand. Assuming both players subsequently pass, the Slavering Gug’s ability now resolves. However, since Jack “Brass” Brady is no longer in play and is thus an illegal target, the Slavering Gug’ is ignored and discarded without any effect.
The first, is that the ability is not a triggered ability. It's just an ability. The second is that the text of slavering Gug doesn't reference discarding.
Perfect, thanks. Shotgun Blast makes a lot more sense. I wonder why it was changed.
KallistiBRC said:
This is interesting actually. Didn't it used to be a shotgun blast in the example?
There are a two problems with that text actually:
For example, if Darrin plays the triggered ability on Slavering Gug (Core Set F124) on Tommy’s Jack “Brass” Brady (Core Set F61), Tommy may choose to use Jack “Brass” Brady’s Disrupt: action, which would return him to Tommy’s hand. Assuming both players subsequently pass, the Slavering Gug’s ability now resolves. However, since Jack “Brass” Brady is no longer in play and is thus an illegal target, the Slavering Gug’ is ignored and discarded without any effect.
The first, is that the ability is not a triggered ability. It's just an ability. The second is that the text of slavering Gug doesn't reference discarding.
Slavering Gug is a triggered ability. Anything with the bold timing word is a triggered ability. The discard thing? I have no idea. That was from the old FAQ. I'm guessing Damon hasn't had a chance to go through it all and fix some of the past mistakes. Well at least he answers questions in a timely manner, I guess that it will take some time to clean up the FAQ of these little inconsistencies.
Penfold said:
KallistiBRC said:
This is interesting actually. Didn't it used to be a shotgun blast in the example?
There are a two problems with that text actually:
For example, if Darrin plays the triggered ability on Slavering Gug (Core Set F124) on Tommy’s Jack “Brass” Brady (Core Set F61), Tommy may choose to use Jack “Brass” Brady’s Disrupt: action, which would return him to Tommy’s hand. Assuming both players subsequently pass, the Slavering Gug’s ability now resolves. However, since Jack “Brass” Brady is no longer in play and is thus an illegal target, the Slavering Gug’ is ignored and discarded without any effect.
The first, is that the ability is not a triggered ability. It's just an ability. The second is that the text of slavering Gug doesn't reference discarding.
Slavering Gug is a triggered ability. Anything with the bold timing word is a triggered ability. The discard thing? I have no idea. That was from the old FAQ. I'm guessing Damon hasn't had a chance to go through it all and fix some of the past mistakes. Well at least he answers questions in a timely manner, I guess that it will take some time to clean up the FAQ of these little inconsistencies.
From the Rulebook:
Triggered Effects
A triggered effect is any effect with preceded by the following text in bold: Action, Disrupt, Response, or Forced Response.
Triggered Ability
A triggered ability is any triggered effect caused by a card already in play.
Sorry, I got a bit confused by the terminology distinction there. So I guess SG's abilitity is a Triggered Ability because it is used when the card is already in play and it'd be a Triggered Effect if I had played it from hand/discard pile instead (were it playable that way that is)? (Wouldn't all Forced Responses by the nature of how they occur be Triggered Abilities?)
All triggered abilities are triggered effects, but not all triggered effects are triggered abilities.
If the effect is triggered, it is a triggered effect. If it is a triggered effect on a card that was already in play it is a triggered ability. Make sense?
Not that in anyway invalidates your main point that Slavering Gug example was not properly edited.