So, why can't heroes use cover when on their own? It doesn't make sense to me, there he is hiding behined a tank trap with his Grenadier buddies when finally all his buddies are taken out, all of the sudden he's in the open! Why? Is there a rules design reason, I can't figure it out.

cause its kinda not heroic

Major Mishap said:

Yeah, it does seem a little silly that a hero can, say, hide all day long behind an object that blocks line of sight entirely, but he can't duck behind an ammo crate to avoid his head getting blown off.

Of course, as it says in the Operation Cyclone campaign book, "if you don't like a rule, then change it".

Yeah, I will do, we tend to forget that they can't hide anyway. I don't duppose it would effect gameplay and at least then you do have a viable option of going it alone instead of running around with 5 bodyguards.

Yeah, I will do, we tend to forget that they can't hide anyway. I don't duppose it would effect gameplay and at least then you do have a viable option of going it alone instead of running around with 5 bodyguards.

I would think that a hero became a hero by using cover at some point or the other. My two cents.....

I think the fact that they have 4 health points make up for the lack of cover.

Dcal12 said:

But a squad has 5 health, deals out more damage and costs the same number of points.

Major Mishap said:

and most squads lack a special ability that can as dramaticaly effect a game at a critical moment in such a critical way , even if its just single use abilities .

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Agreed, every unit has its uses in certain situations, one of the things I like about this game, there is no super must-have beat-all unit. But this is now getting a little off topic, there still is no logical or game design reason put forward as to why heroes can't take cover when on their own. If a aquad of 6 men can hide behined a tank trap then one should be able to too. Might try to mail the designers as noone come here

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i think i've said enough now in support of heros not getting cover ?

Major Mishap said:

well there are rules that i dissagree with to , and other rules that make no logical sense to me , but i accept them because the game as is is so wonderfuly fun , that i accept the rules i dont like , and only make my house rules to fill in untill either DT has rules to cover a situation (like my airplane rules) , or to fill gaps to make casual play custom units fit the rules that DO exist ; like my hell runner .

i look at how great this game is , and am willing to suffer a few oddities to enjoy the fun this game is straight out of the gate . after all the games i have learnt and given up like WH40K , mutant cronicles , battle tech , etc............... and all the systems i have had to labor through because of the rules in them , DUST TACTICS is the game i have been waiting over 20 years for .