Void_onion213 said:

Ok I will try typing also when I wish to say something complex.

I've just asked Asajev and he told me:

06/26 21:45:46 thor2006: in your game how do you allow players to take talents and skills that are from a lower rank
06/26 21:45:49 thor2006: ?
06/26 21:46:06 Asajev: oh elite advance

Hope for any of the players will help this house rule. He is still in the middle of deciding what xp should reward the players. And the system we are in is the system with the righteous path,

flame weapon (universal) --> not worth it people can dodge the flames easily so I will only use when they already spent the dodge skill. So the +20 to dodge for the enemy does not matter.

Intimidate --> I will have a S of 80(with power armour)

So my plan for level 2:
Combat Formation --> 500 xp (great with good quality cortical implant *2 intelligence for the whole team for initiative)
Tracking --> 200 xp
Rapid reload --> 200 xp
takedown --> 200 xp
true grit --> 200 xp
dodge +10 --> 200 xp
Scholastic lore (tactica Imperialis) +10 --> 200 xp
Awareness +10 --> 200 xp
Willpower +5 --> 500 xp
Acrobatics --> 200 xp
Sound Constitution --> 200 xp
BS +5 --> 250 xp

What do you guys think?

Should I take Common Lore(War)+10 instead of Sound Constitution ?

I also found out that heavy weapon mastery has a +10 to hit,+2 to damage,+2 to initiative.

looks good Thor. Might want to look into acquiring and training an elite company of house troops for planetary and ship board use.

Void_onion213 said:

I was planing to befriend the mutants from the ship underdecks(those that can be befriended without the crew knowing,others outside the rogue trader) and in return for better conditions,food they will be made loyal to the rogue trader and could repair,maintain the equipment in the underdecks. After I make sure they are not tainted by chaos and are loyal(purge the disloyal and corrupted ones) I could train the mutants as a secret crack security teams that can be activated in emergency situations (when the ship is invaded). The mutants will be have a counter in the much numerous crew crack security team. We will also find almost all the little secrets of the ship.

This way we will have an early warning system that things like the ork infestation will not go undetected. We can also use as shock troops to take ships that we will have any of their crew alive after we capture their ship.

If not I will take the crew and purge the underdecks of life.

For acquiring good quality arsmen and not cannon fodder (especially an stormtrooper detachment) we will need to have a highter profit factor that 30 to succeed in the acquisition tests. There is a huge slew of negative modifiers for acquiring troops worth their salt.

What do you think about my ideas?

I was lucky the orks wanted to vent their fury on the heavy bolter turret and not me. I would have burned for sure a fate point if the orks attacked me as they attacked the heavy bolter turret.

Another question should Holt rely on the knowledge skills of magos nihlus and the void master? Or should I take almost all the lore advances I can get?

More than likely we should take what skills we can. First of all the others are on a different ship and second i don't really trust their motives. So yes, our characters should be able to multitask if possible. Anyway, your idea should greatly improve ship security performance.

Asajev, I'm leaving chat on for the evening and checking it every few minutes, if you happen to be at the computer and feel like catching me up on what i missed from the GM's perspective, that'd be swell.

Hi guys I have some good news and some bad news to some of you. In our last game we had a mix amount of good times and bad times. I am here to give you two points that need to be addressed. The first point is XP awards that you have been waiting for are finally here.

Thor - 1000 XP
Barddoc - 1000 XP
BBT - 1000 XP
Timeless - 1000 XP
Void - 0 XP [1000 XP (-500 XP from Game Disruptions, - 500 XP for Rude behaviour in public ventrillo server)

The second point that has to be addressed is the permanent ban of one of the players from the game. I am sorry to say that the player has to be banned to to repeated disturbances, cheating, and rude behaviour and verbal abuse to other players has to be Void_Onion.

* When in a meeting with other administrators of the ventrillo server, you have been flagged as distrubing the general server community while I was not online and they have voted to ban you from the server in conjuction with my vote for the above reasons.

* The problem that you have is not the character or the game mechanics of playing a Rogue Trader but the attitude you have displayed is less then admirable and the other players have contacted me about this issue and told me how it is disturbing the game and their personal enjoyment of the game time.

* In addition, based on an earlier post of yours that you could keep this character as a single player character that is fine by me but you will need to find another Game Master as the game I am running requires 2+ players and that seems to be one to many for your play style. So please do not come back if you attempt to come back into the server or cause any trouble then actions will be taken.

As for the rest of the group we will be meeting at the same time and continue were we left off, a new development and adventure awaits you with all the new toys and trinkets that you might find in the Path.

Sorry to hear about void. Wished if he could continue playing with us.

I forgot to add my begining insanity and corruption. I will post today.

For my 1000 xp I will take this talents and skills and characteristics:

• Common Lore(Imperial Guard) --> 100 xp
• Literacy --> 100 xp
• Ambidexterous --> 200 xp
• Quick Draw --> 200 xp
• S +5 --> 100 xp
• T +5 --> 250 xp

Total : 950 xp

Origin Path :
Fortress World (Basic training SP)
Unnatural Origin,Contaminated Environs(Peer Mutants,Resistance Poison) with Brute mutation(10 STR,10 Toughness already in the stats)
Crusade Call To War( Peer Military,Hatred Chaos,7 Insanity Points)
The Hand Of War(Heavy Weapon Training(SP),Hatred Pirates)
Devotion,Duty(Unshakable faith)
Accursed be thy Name,Outraged Scion( Armour of Contempt ,Forbiden Lore Xenos,Mutants)

WS : 40
BS : 60
S : 75+5= 80 (55+5= 60 without power Armor)
T : 55+5= 60
Ag : 45
Int : 40
Per : 40
Wp : 53
Fel : 35
Wounds : 15
Fate Points : 3 (4-1 spent last turn for the Forbidden Lore Xenos check)
Insanity :1(Rolled)+7(Crusade Call To War from background)= 8
Coruption: 3
Armour : 8 Power Armor / 5 or 6 for Enforcer Light Carapace

Advance Skills : Common Lore (War), Dodge,Intimidate,Scholastic Lore(Tactica Imperialis),Secret Tongue(Military),Speak Language(Low Gothic),Awareness, Medicae,Common Lore(Imperial Guard),Literacy

Basic Skills :Swim,Silent Move,Search,Scrutiny,Logic,Inquiry,Gamble,Forbidden Lore(Xenos,Mutants),Evaluate,Disguise,Deceive, Contortionist,Concealment, Command,Climb,Charm,Carouse,Barter.

Talents :Resistance Poison,Peer Mutants,Peer Military,Hatred Pirates,Hatred Chaos,Unshakable faith,Armour of Contempt,Nerves of Steel,Sound Constitution,Combat Focus,Heavy Weapon Training(SP),Weapon Mastery Heavy,Hulking,Basic Weapon Training(Universal), Pistol Weapon Training (Universal), Melee Weapon Training (Universal),Thrown Weapon Training(Universal),Ambidexterous,Quick Draw

Free Acquisition : 1 Ignatus pattern Power Armor(+20 STR,+1 Movement,8AP,Hulking,good quality photo visors-Dark Sight,immune to photon flash grenades,micro bead,auspex) Family Patriarch Power Armor.

Equipement

• Starting: good :craftsmanship helgun, good crafstmanship primitive with mono upgrade long sabre,micro-bead,bolt shell keepsake,set clothing, medkit,manacles,ammo coffers.
• Acquisitions :1 Set of carapace armor, 1 common quality power sword,1 common quality heavy stubber of Orthalck pattern,grenades,grenade launcher,1 common quality null blocker field.

Modded my sheet, added the xp; what I bought is at the bottom

http://dark-heresy.wikispaces.com/Cromwell

Hi guys bringing you another update after reviewing all the characters and doing some research for the game I have come to the conclusion that we have some very large power games in the base stat lines. I am requesting from all the players that they redo their stats using the point buy system. I will be allocating 135 points for all to work with. Special notes on how to spend this points. You can not spend more then 25 points in a single stat and you must spend at least 5 points in each stat. In addition to the point buy system rework, all players will get max fate points for starting minus burned fate points used in last game. This is to bring all player characters in line with the new balance of the game. I do apologize for the sudden change but this will help new candidates that wish to join the game be in equal ground and allows me to better judge a character that is being submitted without putting in question the honor of said player with his or her rolls. One final note before I have to head out to do some additional work is that anyone that wishes to join feel free to submit a character we meet in a ventrillo server from 7 PM until we finish the game or I have to go on Saturdays. I am still considering doing all rolls on my end to stop debates on fairness of rolls but I am searching for a neutral resource so that all have a chance to roll the dice and all can see them.

Asajev said:

A question old players will redo the initial stats to reflect the point buy characteristic of 135 with your limit(max 25 a stat and min 5 a stat). Is that correct?

that is correct Thor, you spend 5 points per stat and then you can spend up to 20 additional points on a stat to a total of 25 points allocated into that stat.

My initial redone character is. Base modified by backgroud is in[]:

Origin Path :
Fortress World (Basic training SP) [+5BS,+5WP,-5INT,-5Fel]
Unnatural Origin,Contaminated Environs(Peer Mutants,Resistance Poison) with Brute mutation(10 STR,10 Toughness already in the stats) [+3WP,-3Fel]
Crusade Call To War( Peer Military,Hatred Chaos,7 Insanity Points)[+5BS]
The Hand Of War(Heavy Weapon Training(SP),Hatred Pirates)
Devotion,Duty(Unshakable faith)[+3WP]
Accursed be thy Name,Outraged Scion( Armour of Contempt ,Forbiden Lore Xenos,Mutants)

WS : 30[25]
BS : 50[35]
S : 45[35] (+20 Power Armor)
T : 55[35]
Ag : 50[25] ( I used Memetix character sheet.He substracts 10 Ag when he for the Brute Mutation when he should not do that.)

Per : 40[25]
Wp : 41[36]
Fel : 37[17]

Int : 40[20]

TOTAL POINTS:135

Wounds : 15
Fate Points : 3 (4-1 spent last turn for the Forbidden Lore Xenos check)
Insanity :1(Rolled)+7(Crusade Call To War from background)= 8
Coruption: 3
Armour: 8 Power Armor / 5 ( 4 -Head) for Enforcer Light Carapace

For my 1500 xp I will take :

• Awareness --> 100 xp
• Common Lore(Imperial Guard) --> 100 xp
• Dodge --> 100 xp
• Literacy --> 100 xp
• Ambidexterous --> 200 xp
• Quick Draw --> 200 xp
• Medicae --> 200 xp
• Bloodtracker --> 500 xp
• BS +5 --> 100 xp
• S +5 --> 100 xp
• Fel +5 --> 250 xp
• Ag +5 --> 100 xp

Total : 1450 xp

I have a final character of :

WS : 30
BS : 50+5= 55
S : 45+5= 50 (+20 Power Armor)
T : 55
Ag : 50+5= 55
Int : 40
Per : 40
Wp : 41
Fel : 37+5= 42
Wounds : 15
Fate Points : 3
Insanity :1(Rolled)+7(Crusade Call To War from background)=8
Coruption: 3
Armour: 8 Power Armor / 5 ( 4 -Head) for Enforcer Light Carapace

With the following talents,skills,equipment:

Advance Skills : Common Lore (War), Dodge,Intimidate,Scholastic Lore(Tactica Imperialis),Secret Tongue(Military),Speak Language(Low Gothic),Awareness, Medicae,Common Lore(Imperial Guard),Literacy

Basic Skills :Swim,Silent Move,Search,Scrutiny,Logic,Inquiry,Gamble,Forbidden Lore(Xenos,Mutants),Evaluate,Disguise,Deceive, Contortionist,Concealment, Command,Climb,Charm,Carouse,Barter.

Talents :Resistance Poison,Peer Mutants,Peer Military,Hatred Pirates,Hatred Chaos,Unshakable faith,Armour of Contempt,Nerves of Steel,Sound Constitution,Combat Focus,Heavy Weapon Training(SP),Weapon Mastery Heavy,Hulking,Basic Weapon Training(Universal), Pistol Weapon Training (Universal), Melee Weapon Training (Universal),Thrown Weapon Training(Universal),Ambidexterous,Quick Draw

Free Acquisition : 1 Ignatus pattern Power Armor(+20 STR,+1 Movement,8AP,Hulking,good quality photo visors-Dark Sight,immune to photon flash grenades,micro bead,auspex) Family Patriarch Power Armor.

Equipement

• Starting : good:craftsmanship helgun, good crafstmanship primitive with mono upgrade long sabre,micro-bead,bolt shell keepsake,set clothing, medkit,manacles,ammo coffers.
• Acquisitions :1 Set of carapace armor, 1 common quality power sword,1 common quality heavy stubber of Orthalck pattern,grenades,grenade launcher,1 common quality null blocker field.

If there are any problems please be free and tell me.

Because of personal matters I will not be able to enter on net on Thursday and Friday and Wednesday in the evening. So just leave a message.

Hello, I came across your guy's thread and I am interested in joining if you guys are still looking for players. I would be interested in playing either a navigator or a missionary, which ever is needed. If you have space let me know and I can tell you my character ideas. Thanks

I am pretty sure we are still accepting new players. Our group does not have a navigator or a missionary so either of them would be a valuable addition. Can you tell us anything about what kind of character you are looking to play as?

Well preliminarily, If i where to roll the Missionary he would be motivated by conversion and the chance to spread the light of the god emperor to lost worlds. Basically he would agree to serve on a RTs vessel for the chance to covert. He would be extremely zealous with a lot of points in knowledge skill to help him in debating and convincing those lost to the Imperium convert. If he could not convert by word then he would covert them (to ash) by flame. He would also hate all Xenos passionately unless there are PC Xenos in which case that would create too much friction.

The navigator would be a hedonist from a high noble house solely motivated by pleasure and acquisition of things leading to pleasure. Instead of rolling on the mutation table I would choose bloated with the GMs permission as i think it would best fit this character. All of his free time and resources would be spent seeking pleasure.

Haroon said:

Make sure the misonary does not hate mutants and it will be ok..

When creating a character please read what Asajev has said on the last page.

Hi Haroon, a Missionary would be ideal for the group over a Navigator. I will review your character when you post it.

What about my redo character?

Yeah- With the warp Engine and Warpbane hull, a Navigator would be good, but it won't really bring anything fantastic to the table; a missionary would be good; Granted we got 2 Mutants out of 4 players, but it's not like it's an obvious mutation as well (Brute mutation for both of them). Worse case it will fall inot an debate as to waht is mutation and the nature of it. Not to mention fill a gap that our lack of Senechal brings us; we need some knowledgable person; we know stuff, but not..how shall we say, more specific knowledge.

Plus I think we're a pretty much Creed-minded (Or Omnissiah-inclinde) group, it should work out fine, short of the odd arguments due to the manners of doing things.

Thor your character looks fine.

For the new char gen, since I come to a total of 128 points, could I keep my char as is? I am satisfied with him as he is, and I don't really care of the 'extra' 7 points that I got left, nor having an extra fate point for the moment.

Your call Asajev, but like I said, I am satisfied the way he is.

http://dark-heresy.wikispaces.com/Cromwell

What careers do you have so far?

Haroon said:

Timeless is a Rogue Trader

Thor is an Arch-Militant

We got BangBang Tequilla who is an Explorator

and myself, I am a Void-Master (gunnery specialist)

If you guys dont have an astropath that would be a lot of fun for me. If thats ok with you Asajev, I will think of an idea for an astropath. I think that would be more useful that a missionary.