A lookback at 2008: An Article about the successful decks of 2008 and the next big thing.

By HolyDragonCloud, in UFS General Discussion

First off, hello all, sorry I've been away. Rock band 2 has consumed me a bit, among other things.

This has been on my mind for awhile, and when the playoffs for Football rolled around, I got this idea in my mind.

Taking a look back at Nats and Worlds, I'd like to characterize what it seems to me that a deck that wins has. This is where the Football reference comes in. In short-Offense wins games. Defense wins championships.

Before I begin, I am not referring to hybrid decks. Just read the article, and you'll understand.

I'll begin with some analysis of the decks that made top 8/16 that I can recall at some of these events.

At Nats, I'll highlight the first and second place decks of Omar and Yonhair. The winner, Omar, was pilotting his monster Voldo deck, with Yonhair piloting his throw-together-in-5-minutes Cody deck. First, Omar's deck. As we all know, the mill out Voldo is very strong defensively, with (at the time) R negation in Addes, Board protection in Heishing and Red Lotus and Higher Calibur, CC hax in BRT, Life gain in Revitalize, and Recursion in Military Rank, and everyone's best friend, HAPPY LOLIDAYS! It's offensive ability lied within Vast Resources and Contemplation, along with Voldo's Response, which could be used both offensively and defensively. This isn't everything of course, but it's the cream of the crop in certain areas.

Cody, on the other hand, relied on BRT, Addes (1 Addes still counts!), HC, Red Lotus, and other solid board protection for it's defensive prowess, and utilized Moonbeam Slicer as the primary kill condition. Both of Cody's abilities are great both offensively and defensively as well.

So, two well-rounded decks clashed head to head. In the end, the better defense one. Voldo is designed to simply eat up all the damage you throw at him while slowly milling you out. Contemplation happily puts all your opponents attacks into their hand, since his defensive capabilities with all of his resources are just overwhelming. Cody, on the other hand, doesn't have much in the way to answer the offensive power of the Voldo deck. There wasn't anything outside of Oral Dead, which could only stop Contemplation at the most, to stop everything the Voldo deck could do to win. In the end, the better defense was the winner of the tournament, clearing the path so that the offense of the deck could storm it's way through the front lines and into the end zone for the game-winning touchdown.

On to Worlds. From personal experience using Talim, it was clear as the day winded down that straight up aggro/turn 2 or nothing just won't cut it on the grander stages. Maybe on the costal championships with less people, but not at Worlds. Mortal Strike is simply too much of a road block, and in All decks, with all the draw power, it's just not going to happen where it won't come out. Want an example? Vs. Bautista's Sakura and Loki's Xianghua sandbag into Alex, both players got out early Mortal Strikes in all games against me. I was 0-2 in those matches, the only possible times I could have, and 4-0-1 in all my other matches (the tie was this insanely wtf moment against Rick's Demitri deck-in game 3 we both checked away our win conditions so neither of us could generate any form of offense and time ran out). Saying something, don't you think? With 7 rounds, the chances of you running into the 'Death Dealers' of your deck are just too high to risk it.

So let's look at a few of the decks. First up, the tournament winning Ibuki deck by James Hata, or as I call it, the Best Deck played by the Best Player. At that time, Evil's defensive ability, as we know, was strong-an near-untouchable board thanks to Higher Calibur, R Negation, and Rejection/Gorgeous team loops thanks to The Gorgeous Team. Now earlier I did outline how this wasn't good enough to withstand the onslaught of Voldo, but the difference with Ibuki is in her attack base and Infiltrating. When properly built, she can NEVER fail a first turn Infiltrating action side. So you may as well play some throw away foundations if you're worried and can't defend against it. Second, thanks to the jank that is suzaku, Ibuki can feasibly kill you on turn 1. A 5 Check, maybe a 2 and a 3 check, another low check, and bam, Suzaku for 6, pitch a card, and smack them for a ton of damage turn 1.

The runner-up deck, Shoemaker's Ukyo deck, was certainly no slack either. A wealth of attacks with evil's foundation base made for another well-rounded deck, but with the load of bad checks in the deck (22 if I recall), going up against an Ibuki deck that theoretically can't check badly was the difference maker. In the finals, a combo of a sideboard of Chinese Sword Style, Rejection, and Ibuki's superior attack lineup won the day. As we see again, defense won it all. Chinese Sword Style was simply the MVP of the event in the end, and James used it only for one game, and only used it twice I believe. It forced Ben to use his Form with Ukyo before he wanted to, and forced him to rely onto drawing into what he needed off the top. And it was seriously out of nowhere. Honestly, would you expect to get hit with an action that shares no symbols with your opponents character but can still leave you crippled? A great defensive call by James.

Moving down a bit, I'll take a look at some of the runner ups. First, the Cervantes deck. While I beat the deck earlier in the day thanks to two very lucky opening hands (He beat me game 1, he had me Mega Spike/Immortality locked by turn 2), this deck was S E R I O U S. A VERY easy kill condition in Moon Sault Slayer, and an incredibly strong defensive base in Cervantes's Form, Immortality, and Military Rank to pick back up the Immo's. The downfall of the defense of this deck is simple-Don't get any Immo's, Don't think you'll lock your opponent. Against a quick deck like Shoemaker's Ukyo, whom he lost to in top 4, it's either a first turn mega spike to set up an immo lock, or death.

Next is Jeremy Ray's Alex deck. To be honest, I picked him and James to face each other in the finals. All with Alex is simply a powerhouse. With an amazing defensive set-up only rivaled by Evil, and despite the loss of CSS, access to Chain Throw and Tiger Fury, the deck simply looks unstoppable. The deck isn't too strong in the early game, but is very strong in the late game. And I do believe that their first match went on for some time. I'm not really sure how the deck fell, but my only guess is that Higher Calibur's absurdity became too much to deal with in a deck that did run a few responses.

So, /I know it was a little long, but I wanted to stress my point about the defensive natures of each deck I mentioned, and how powerful each one was. With all the bannings, however, things have changed quite a bit. Higher Calibur was the penultimate Offensive/Defensive card of the Game. Both effects were unstoppable essentially.

In order for a deck to win, it has to be very strong defensively, and strong offensively. The point of this article,. though, was to show that offense doesn't just mean attacking. In the case of Omar, it meant decking your opponent out. Right now, if you had to ask me today what deck would win the next major championship, I would tell you Chun-li in a heartbeat. Air is seriously great right now. Tonight I got my bum handed to me by Omar's Chester mill-out deck running the new Remy action that makes both players draw cards at the cost of discarding cards from your momentum. Unless in an All deck, Blood Runs True seriously cannot touch an Air deck if it doesn't come out early. With Inhuman Perception and Chester's Backing, I was only able to BRT one card in both matches.

In the case of Chun-li, that girl has an AMAZING attack that makes it so that you do not have to run Spike (trust me, you do NOT need to run spike in her deck) and she can attack on your opponents turn for the simple cost of them playing 2 forms. Then with her R and the E on her kick, her pool clears out so she can Tag Along back that kick and do it again. In the span of one full rotation of turns, she can throw 30 damage at you. That's the nature of her offensive ability.

In her defense lies the two foundations I mentioned above, along with Chinese Boxing. But wait, that's not all! Shooting Capoera and the Angel of Evening just step it up another level! readying those Chester's Backings to be ready for another go around just screams defense to the max!

I hope you all like what you all read. Comments always appreciated.

the cervantes player was nick with is me.thanks.

HolyDragonCloud said:


In order for a deck to win, it has to be very strong defensively, and strong offensively. The point of this article,. though, was to show that offense doesn't just mean attacking. In the case of Omar, it meant decking your opponent out. Right now, if you had to ask me today what deck would win the next major championship, I would tell you Chun-li in a heartbeat. Air is seriously great right now. Tonight I got my bum handed to me by Omar's Chester mill-out deck running the new Remy action that makes both players draw cards at the cost of discarding cards from your momentum. Unless in an All deck, Blood Runs True seriously cannot touch an Air deck if it doesn't come out early. With Inhuman Perception and Chester's Backing, I was only able to BRT one card in both matches.

In the case of Chun-li, that girl has an AMAZING attack that makes it so that you do not have to run Spike (trust me, you do NOT need to run spike in her deck) and she can attack on your opponents turn for the simple cost of them playing 2 forms. Then with her R and the E on her kick, her pool clears out so she can Tag Along back that kick and do it again. In the span of one full rotation of turns, she can throw 30 damage at you. That's the nature of her offensive ability.

In her defense lies the two foundations I mentioned above, along with Chinese Boxing. But wait, that's not all! Shooting Capoera and the Angel of Evening just step it up another level! readying those Chester's Backings to be ready for another go around just screams defense to the max!



nice writeup HDC. although yonhair had chain throws and concealeds, i don't remember him having Moonbeam in the deck, pretty sure CSS was the only pure fire card there (was 96% evil build). and i didn't have lotus in the nats version :P

@otaku-thanks nick, I'm sorry I always forget your name.

@Antigoth-yessir, no problem. Not to say BRT is becomming an afterthought, but rather it is a LOT easier to deal with than we originally feared.

@Omar-Christ, i'm sorry. Whenever I think of Cody I think Moonbeam, and I often confuse your Nats/Worlds versions of your Voldo deck since the changes between both events were huge.

HolyDragonCloud said:

@Antigoth-yessir, no problem. Not to say BRT is becomming an afterthought, but rather it is a LOT easier to deal with than we originally feared.

We were doing some deck testing here earlier this week, and my buddy was running a Ryu with LotM, BRT, Chesters, the whole works. It was interesting because he pwned the crap out of me, and didn't even need to use the BRT's to do it. (Hence why I'm stating to see them as an after thought.)

another interesting thing is that All didn't really fall as far as we thought. Want more info? Ask to see Omar's Sakura deck. If you ever want to sit and cry as you're smacked around by one attack and can't do a darn thing about it.

Antigoth said:

HDC, thank you! for sharing this update on the current meta. It's really nice to see that BRT is becoming as much of an afterthought elsewhere as well.

Yeah, I'm glad. That means I can probably pick up a playset for cheap if I ever plan on playing those symbols. Hey, it's still nice to have, and with that effect at 2/5 (AND THE +1 HIGH BLOCK ESPECIALLY), I'm noit gonna complain!

I went out hard to Hata in Top 4, I plowed my way into top 4, unfortunately Alex didn't come with me, he took the rest of the day off haha.

Game 1 my deck threw out a total stinkbomb and I never saw cards I needed, James got a great draw, I held him off for a long time, but it just became a matter of time.

Game 2 went a little better,but I was perpetually one card away(Kung-fu Training) from being able to put it away, I playmistaked myself out of a kill turn AND James saw my hand and found out I had no kung-fu's and cleaned the board, I managed to recover and then when I finally went for the Kill, I had 5 ready foundations, Played a Tiger Fury, Flipped the only 3 left in my deck of about 30 cards, and james hit me with a Double Anti-K that I had THOUGHT he sided out because he had gone all the way to cycle without ever flipping one. he promptly wrecked me after that.

Earlier in the day, James and me played the matchup a few times because James admitted that with the ibuki deck he had NEVER played against a Alex, I ended up beating him 3 times in a row, then rounds started, which isn't a great sample, because in one of those game his deck totally crapped on him, and in another he madea huge "I've never played against a Alex deck before" play error. I think our decks were very much of the dead even variety when they are both playing up to their potential, his deck played better when it counted, and he played as good as James always plays and put me away for my decks desire to take the night off.

Top 4 isn't tooo bad tho. I'm the UFS final Boss, I've lost to both world champions in worlds top cuts for 2007/2008. Keep the streak Alive!

Dood the ukyo deck that me and ben co-authored only ran 18 3 or less checks not 22. that would be clearly way too many.

the deck had huge potential at beating the decks you listed. b/c if you u use your football analogy he did have defense. he could **** your hand on your turn and mine. so basically he made your defense stay on the sideline while i run down the field for a touchdown with no one on the field to stop me.

To reinterate on what Scooter said. That deck did have really good defense, it ran all the power evil cards for defense. The biggest problem I had against James was early caliburs and olcos that I just couldn't combat without calibur myself. But we all know that cards story.

Infiltrating was actually the MVP for James I would say. As every time I got hit with Chineese I had absolute trash in my hand. Khols, Omar, and company that saw my hands knew how bad my deck just pooped out on me. Drawing 13 cards to see one attack just wouldn't cut it. And the threat of a board reset hindered me a little in the first match over the first two turns.

I guess its just retribution for everyone else in top 16. No one made it past turn 3 and only one person took a game from me through the previous rounds.

It was actually 19 bad checks. Three 2 checks, 16 3s, 5 4s, and everything else was five plus. And checking attacks wasn't really an issue. As most of them were low difficulty with shinobi traditions to pass multiple attacks.

I'm not taking anything from James. The best player on that day won. But I do want a rematch :D

All in all I think it boils down to the quarterback not having anyone to throw too and the running game wasn't there for me.

Thank you for clearing up all the things I wasn't too sure about everyone.

Ben, yes, the evil foundation base was very similiar, but the difference between the two of your decks in that field was Gorgeous Team, if i'm not entirely mistaken? In that case, that's a defensive piece that he had over you, but you are certainly correct that you did have most of the same defensive measures available.

I think offense-orientated decks are beginning to become a lot more powerful than than they were around Block 2. Having been playing in Block 3 for a good couple of months now, aggressive decks have become a lot more potent than they were. Chun-Li, as was previously stated, is a forerunner for this. There are many others that we've had for a while that have become more powerful with the rotation etc, like Donovan, Raphael, Talim, Zangief and more. In our meta, this biggest control player we have is pretty much the only control player we have, running Defender Loop Victor (who is no less scary than he ever was, by the way), but aggro decks including the aforementioned and R. Mika, Kazuki, Sogetsu and others seem to be domminating our Block 3 meta, where in Block 2 it was all Ibuki, Chester, Akuma, Cody etc. I think it's good to see the winds of change ;)