From Love to Hate

By KelRiever, in Battlestar Galactica

LOL! I love that comic. FYI I talked directly to Fantasy Flight about this, and no offense, but they were about 10,000 times more understanding than you guys. Its why I do love the company and do continue to play what I consider their much better games. Anyway, Battlestar Galactica is over, its been deep 6'd for good. Hope you all enjoy playing it as much as I enjoyed dumping it! ;)

KelRiever said:

FYI I talked directly to Fantasy Flight about this, and no offense, but they were about 10,000 times more understanding than you guys.

Not sure "understanding" is the right word. I think I understand your feelings, and having followed this thread I'd say most of the respondents do also; the circumstance you're describing is an awfully familiar one to regular BSG players, after all. Maybe the reason you found FFG's customer service department to meet your needs better than the BSG community has to do our differing purposes. A good customer service department seeks to placate upset customers, regardless of the validity of their complaint, and it sounds like this was in accord with your desires. On the other hand, the veteran BSG players whose responses you found unsatisfactory were generally trying to offer the benefits of their experience to suggest ways for you to have better game experiences in the future, and to help you avoid the problem you created for yourself in that game which made your gaming evening so miserable. It's clear now that you were seeking the former over the latter. So while I've never been good at uncritical commiseration, here's my college try:

I've been there bud, as have we all. happy.gif

No, you don't have to placate and that isn't what I mean by misunderstanding. I made a point initially that I wasn't looking for help with something I thought should never be in any game whatsoever. If my question had been, "How do I handle this problem," you all would have given me plenty of good answers. However, my complaint was basically saying, "Hey, this should never ever be here," to which all those answers were basically wasted. Well, on me. I am willing to bet the information above as to how to get around said problem will be useful to others, and good news to that. Anyway, cheers. And I wasn't being sarcastic when I said I hope everyone here continues to enjoy the game. To each, his/her own.

@KelRiever

Would you mind describing how anyone gets brigged that soon in your games? Because that would mean people know who the cylon is really quick - which, barring obvious reveals, shouldn't be possible because few people will build enough trust to brig someone on anyone's accusations that early.

For the example at the start of the thread: How did people know you were a cylon to be brigged?

Okay, KelRiever, I do get you. I admit there's a dangerous mix of elements in BSG that's definitely not be to everyone's tastes. I totally understand that. And you're right about different strokes; happy gaming and all that. Maybe I'll run into you on one of the other FFG boards!

Cifer said:

...the only way for first-round briggings to occur would be either a cylon-detecting Baltar being taken seriously (yeah, right...) or a cylon making a mistake or having bad luck (like the above Boomer tale - put in a blue card and have double blue destiny while being the only one with blue playing into the test) or humans being very trigger-happy.


Not to nitpick, but there are ways for people to end up in the brig very early. There are Crisis cards that send someone to the brig as part of the fail result, and if you are unlucky enough to draw one early on, Cylon players will probably try their hardest to prevent the team from passing the skill check. It might not seem very likely, but its happened to us on more than one occasion. We actually drew into this once on the 2nd player's turn after starting the game with "Standoff With Pegasus" as the first Crisis.
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@Skowza

It's certainly possible, but in that case, I'd probably ask for help from only one or two players who draw the right colours. Together, we should be able to break me out and any sabotage in the test would be pretty obvious.

What the OP described was a Cylon player being thrown into the brig in the first turn and not coming back out because the humans don't let him.

It's the best game ever =)