Waking the Sleeping Giants.

By Mt_Do, in UFS General Discussion

quarzark said:

I think he meant double somersault kick (which is pretty awesome, but Flash Kick is pretty sick too).

I think the guile is delicious because of his built in tech against discard. Pitch his hand, okay, when it goes to blocks he'll pick any card in his staging area (which makes me think, he can take stacked characters off himself) and fully block. He has built in tech against TWoP/Fweem decks, and all those foundations you commited of his via stun/order shenanigans can be put to use gran_risa.gif

That's what I was aimiing for, Somersault kick. partido_risa.gif My bad dudes.

Anyways, another character that I think will be overlooked is the new Rock Howard. I have heard everyone talk about his super attack but not too many people seem to be talking about him. The truth is that I would not be surprised if he is overshadowed by Sogetsu and Basara. What do you guys think?

To quote myself from another thread:

MegaGeese said:

As for Rock Howard (looking at you again, Quarzark) - he's actually very good. As the game is attempting to move more towards blocking, the mere fact that he's a character who makes blocking multiple attacks more viable means he provides a defensive advantage to his player - as we've learned from HDC's article on 2008, a strong defense is what wins games. Additionally, while his abilities are fairly simple, he has one of the most ridiculously powerful symbol combinations in the game - All/Chaos/Order.

Also - he's a 6/27, which is extremely solid as well.

Wafflecopter said:

Unless the ruling has been reversed, Alex can just use Raw Talent + his E + his R (discarding none at the start of the turn), so if all his moves hit - only 1 card contributes to progressive difficulty, every attack gets +1dmg from Raw Talent, and every attack gets a cumulative +1 for every attack that hit and was cleared by Raw Talent. So you start the turn, throw Melancholic, multiple:2, it hits so flip it, 1st copy - Raw Talent, clear original, 4L5, 2nd copy, RT, clear 1st copy, play Chop - Alex's R +2, RT +1, Chop E +2, 2H8, play Kuzuryu Reppa [7diff but oh so worth it], Alex R +3, RT +1, 4M10, draw 10 cards... eventually drop Boomerang Raid at 6diff, static +2X dmg when played, Alex R +X dmg when played, game?

Times Square certainly wouldn't hurt either, but IMO Ready for Anything is overkill.

Alex is officially no longer a sleeping giant :P

I'm pretty sure if you use Alex's R and discard 0 face down cards from your card pool your attacks get +0 damage. It doesn't accumulate with each card you discard from your card pool, it sets it self when you use it.

JDub said:

I'm pretty sure if you use Alex's R and discard 0 face down cards from your card pool your attacks get +0 damage. It doesn't accumulate with each card you discard from your card pool, it sets it self when you use it.

Doesn't it specify that it's the amount of cards discarded for this ability. I understand if we're trying to cheese it should be written on the card but if it's not it gets even more redonkulous.

Wafflecopter said:

Alex's character card is the ONLY one of his support that doesn't explicitly refer to the cards "discarded by/for this ability." Nastiness.

Holy crap. HOLY CRAP.

so i was reading the forums and i would like to see what other characters you guys think are sleeper hits... i am really thinking about the new R. Mika has some possibilities. any ideas on the other characters that would be good let me know.

azuremaster1180 said:

so i was reading the forums and i would like to see what other characters you guys think are sleeper hits... i am really thinking about the new R. Mika has some possibilities. any ideas on the other characters that would be good let me know.

R.Mika's decent if only because she hits the opponent on her turn or on her opponent's turn. It really doesn't matter. It allows you to toss two attacks, build, and save that last attack you weren't sure was going to pass in hand, knowing fully well it WILL be played.

Naw, I wouldn't say she was underated or a sleeper to boot. She has a great abilty and a built in Damage redux. I would say that Mika will see top tier play in the tournament level. So in honesty, if she is a sleeper, I would most definately be surprised. sorpresa.gif

Mt_Do said:

Naw, I wouldn't say she was underated or a sleeper to boot. She has a great abilty and a built in Damage redux. I would say that Mika will see top tier play in the tournament level. So in honesty, if she is a sleeper, I would most definately be surprised. sorpresa.gif

If she's a sleeper, well... she won't ever wake up. Seriously she is silly.

Homme Chapeau said:

Mt_Do said:

Naw, I wouldn't say she was underated or a sleeper to boot. She has a great abilty and a built in Damage redux. I would say that Mika will see top tier play in the tournament level. So in honesty, if she is a sleeper, I would most definately be surprised. sorpresa.gif

If she's a sleeper, well... she won't ever wake up. Seriously she is silly.

R. mika isn't a sleeper. she is the 3rd best char in wariors dream (behind Chun-Li and Hugo.)

If you play her right, she can be more brutal than Chun-Li because her E that allows her to reverse even if she doesn't block is redunk. It even works if she is commited. I am willing to bet that R.Mika could slaughter the chunster if played right.

correction, she can attack before the damage step.

Hmm I think Guile could be very strong char too with CL, R.Mika and HUGO !

Mt_Do said:

correction, she can attack before the damage step.

She can :

1) Attack before the damage step if she would take damage

2) If it's a partial block, use a Reversal.

Two attacks for the price of one - Add in Criminal Past, and yes it is criminal to play her.

You forgot part of it, Hatman: repond with Turnabout.

MegaGeese said:

You forgot part of it, Hatman: repond with Turnabout.

I think most R. Mika players will be running Beach Special as their 2 check of choice. Unless you run 3x and 3x, but with 6 2cc's in a deck that likes to play attacks on your opponents turn, it might be a bit rough.

Also hilarious when it happens. Absolutely hilarious. Mind you, my low check, mind blowing plays of choice would be Sardine Beach Special with R. Mika's ability, block with a void/water card, then R with drifter (another awesome card to put in a water mika deck) and pull a Lunar Slash out on their turn.

Homme Chapeau said:

Mt_Do said:

correction, she can attack before the damage step.

She can :

1) Attack before the damage step if she would take damage

2) If it's a partial block, use a Reversal.

Two attacks for the price of one - Add in Criminal Past, and yes it is criminal to play her.

You can only play one reversal to a blocked attack. So if you use R Mika's E and play a reversal you can't play another one.

I think R. Mika is very good but when she comes out in the same set with Chun-li she gets knocked down a bit. Chun-li is over all better because she can 1) chuck any attack at her opponent (not just a reversal), 2) doesn't have to take damage to play an attack on her opponents turn, and 3) can play an attack even if your opponent is just spaming foundations. But R Mika is still great and should see alot of play, my favorite thing about her is her reversal goes off before she takes damage from the attack she reversed. "Oh your going for game? How about you suck my Feline Spike first. Good Game."

JDub said:

You can only play one reversal to a blocked attack. So if you use R Mika's E and play a reversal you can't play another one.

You don't play a reversal to a blocked attack using Mika's effect.

Yo Dub son you can play a reversal using R.Mika's E then block and then play another reversal on the same turn it's already been ruled and stamped. in fact here it is new.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp which make her retarded as hell and #2 to Chun-LI

MegaGeese said:

You forgot part of it, Hatman: repond with Turnabout.

Don't have any :(

That and I need to work on another deck.

deathcritis1 said:

Yo Dub son you can play a reversal using R.Mika's E then block and then play another reversal on the same turn it's already been ruled and stamped. in fact here it is new.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp which make her retarded as hell and #2 to Chun-LI

I still think Chun-li is a little better. She has less restrictions (opponent doesn't need to have 4 or more cards in their hand, can play any attack not just a reversal, doesn't have to wait for an opponent to play an attack or take damage to use her effect). And really Chun-li can almost do the same thing anyways, she can block an attack and play a reversal then use her effect to play any attack. When it comes down to it Chun-li will probably get to use her R every turn (unless they commit her or choose to only play one card) Mika has to wait for her opponent to play an attack. She is still good but IMO not as good as Chun-li.

Whereas Mika is playable multiple times per turn, and playable while committed, where Chun-Li's major shortcoming in this argument is. She additionally has Earth, which has a far stronger defensive base than Air; as we've learned from 2008, defense wins games.

seriously, Chun-Li v. Mika looks to be a tough call. The reason that I might consider better off than Chun-Li is because her ability is an E that can be used while commited and while it is true that it has to be used on attacks v. Chun-Li's I will kick your teeth in for playing a foundation R, Mika's is better in the later game. One thing though, despite there abilities, Response negation is hilarious against the two of them.

Mt_Do said:

seriously, Chun-Li v. Mika looks to be a tough call. The reason that I might consider better off than Chun-Li is because her ability is an E that can be used while commited and while it is true that it has to be used on attacks v. Chun-Li's I will kick your teeth in for playing a foundation R, Mika's is better in the later game. One thing though, despite there abilities, Response negation is hilarious against the two of them.

True. Both however can negate the negation through various means.