Threat From the East

By Dr.Cornelius, in 1. AGoT General Discussion

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My initial take is that this is an important plot that will see a lot of play. 4 gold and 6 initiative are solid, and the discard/draw effect has a number of implications. Thoughts:

Counter Draw
Having all players hit the draw cap in the plot phase effectively shuts down an opponent's draw advantage. Expect to see this in a lot of decks without efficient draw options. Metagame wise it significantly reduces Lannister and other draw intensive decks advantages.

Hand Refill
Reliable way to refill after emptying your hand.

Putting Cards in The Discard Pile (right where you want them)
Plenty of cards work just fine from the discard pile:


Martell: Darkstar
Targ: Street Waif and Lady Dany's Chambers kick into action the following turn
Greyjoy: River Raid
Baratheon: To be a Stag, Lost Captain
Stark: Endless Endurance

Dr.Cornelius said:

Hand Refill
Reliable way to refill after emptying your hand.

Putting Cards in The Discard Pile (right where you want them)
Plenty of cards work just fine from the discard pile:


Martell: Darkstar
Targ: Street Waif and Lady Dany's Chambers kick into action the following turn
Greyjoy: River Raid
Baratheon: To be a Stag, Lost Captain
Stark: Endless Endurance

the hand refile bit doesn't quite work. if you don't discard 3 cards (notice it doesn't say up to 3) you don't get to draw 3 for the second option. so you can't go from 0, 1, or 2 into 3. plus if you use the first option when you have 0 cards you are just tossing the 3 cards you just drew. i guess if you want to risk losing any good cards you just drew you could do it with 1 or 2 cards in hand...

i've nevr been a fan of intentionally putting cards in the discard pile to get them later. One you have to make sure you can get them back out again (not garaunteed) and two you've now created a 3 step process for most of those cards instead of just playing them outright from your hand.

The Laughing Storm strikes again!

laughind doesn't strike cause if you don't discard, you don't draw.

That's fine, I'll just draw three and then not discard them.

skeletonator said:

That's fine, I'll just draw three and then not discard them.

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I think we have enough material here to ressuscitate the whole Laughing Storm flame war!

Thanks FFG for printing these cards! lengua.gif

IMHO another nail in TLS's non-erratta'd status (unless there ends up a ruling on this I am not seeing). It is just getting too crazy at this point for easy combos *shrug*

rings said:

IMHO another nail in TLS's non-erratta'd status (unless there ends up a ruling on this I am not seeing). It is just getting too crazy at this point for easy combos *shrug*

~rings rings rings he has to be STANDING for his effect to work so obviously if your a good player ull just pre-plot neel him it's a liitle something called "balance" maybe uve heard of it

hklown said:

rings said:

IMHO another nail in TLS's non-erratta'd status (unless there ends up a ruling on this I am not seeing). It is just getting too crazy at this point for easy combos *shrug*

~rings rings rings he has to be STANDING for his effect to work so obviously if your a good player ull just pre-plot neel him it's a liitle something called "balance" maybe uve heard of it

Ahahahaha!

when threat and tls wins gencon someone call me.

Lars said:

when threat and tls wins gencon someone call me.

do we really need to rehash this? you guys are wrong about a card that hasn't seen play yet, its okay.

Fear the TLS, for Rhollor, greenfield, rule, threat ft east, val decks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and dismay!!!!!!!! mu-whahwhahwhahwhahwha

I'm not sure if Lars is supporting or denying the fear of TL's but I for one think he is being a bit over blown for a card that is not out yet.

I'm pretty sure ktom was agreeing with you lars :/

Sarcasm is so lost on the internet. =)

That's what the "~" is for. Or so I've been told. We could always use the SarcMark, but I don't want to pay royalties,

hklown said:

That's what the "~" is for. Or so I've been told. We could always use the SarcMark, but I don't want to pay royalties,

Cool will have to remember that one.

Dr.Cornelius said:

Hand Refill

Reliable way to refill after emptying your hand.

Not really. It cycles through your deck. You discard the same number of cards that you draw.

What it *does* do is slaughter the deck when your opponent has no cards in his hand. Draw 3 then discard 3 is excellent when your opponent doesn't have a choice. Discard 3 then draw 3 is good when you're looking for more options.

If your opponent doesn't have any cards in his hand and you pull this plot, you've just discarded 5% of your opponent's deck, and he has no choice *but* to discard them.

It's an interesting card. I kind of like it.

Lars said:

when threat and tls wins gencon someone call me.

We have to wait?

~I hope they print a 0-cost, when standing you win the game character on September 1st, so it can't be overpowered until the next GenCon a year later lengua.gif

~Rings wasn't that ambitious Sellsword?

bloodycelt said:

~Rings wasn't that ambitious Sellsword?

~Really, Bloody...you are going to push my traitors button? Really? gui%C3%B1o.gif

This card is interesting when run from a draw-poor house...especially after a Rule by Decree followed by a few intrigue claims later (Counting Favors just before a Rule by Decree is adding insult to injury).

Ruvion said:

This card is interesting when run from a draw-poor house...especially after a Rule by Decree followed by a few intrigue claims later (Counting Favors just before a Rule by Decree is adding insult to injury).

My favorite is Summoning/Building Season followed immediately by Confession. gran_risa.gif