Hi Bros!

New to the setting, a question:

Has there been any Primarch/SM Chapter founder that has been raised to sainthood?

Thanks!

Ignoring Lorgar, Primarch of the Word Bearers I can't think of one. Obviously on many worlds they are looked on as divine angels of the Emperor and such like and Guilliman is pretty popular over the Ultramar region, but no officially bestowed titles

Drake Pendragon said:

And in particular the Blood Angels. In a sense they are the poster child marines to many imperial citizens due to their iconic apperance.

Alex

Generally speaking, I would guess the Astartes wouldn't look fondly on such a thing. They don't deify the Emperor the way mortals do and when they show up among the populace they would, more than likely, cause a reaction of fear and terror as something that represents the physical manifestation of their god. Worlds that have lots of interaction with Astartes would probably not have that kind of problem.

The atheist nature of the Space Marines would mean that they would be very displeased if someone tried to give them a sainthood.

It's probably a good idea to not think like a a product of the 40K setting rather than someone on the outside looking in, try to think what a marine is to the people in the setting and how that person sees and thinks about the world around them.

With that in mind from an average Imperial citizen's point of view I would argue that the Primarchs and to a lesser extent their marines are viewed as something already beyond Sainthood, they are the chosen angels of the Emperor, holy warriors that descend from the skies to smite all the Imperium's enemies. To be a Astartes is to be something more than human, something more than mortal in the eyes of the Imperium's citizens. Yes there are those in the Imperium that rise to a station far above others and learn the horrible truth about the fallability of Emperor's sons and the failings and corruption innate to the Imperium's structure, but to most the Astartes are an undying symbol of hope, they are not saints, that is a term used to honour a dead Imperial servant that has gone above and beyond expectations in their service to the God Emperor. A battle brother is far greater than that, more than just a saint, he is a Space Marine.

Banjulhu said:

exact! the "grandchilds" of the holy emperor are holy enough just by being what they are

According the Lexicaneum website, Sanguinous has a holy day celebrated across the Imperium.

"The Blood Angels are the noble descendants of that most puissant and angelic of the primarchs - Sanguinius. They are perhaps one of the most celebrated Chapters in the entire Imperium, their countless heroic deeds and victories known to untold billions of the Emperors subjects across the length and breadth of the Imperium. The beauteous, angelic visages of the Chapter’s heroes adorn gothic facades and stained glass windows in a million holy basilicas and their portraits gaze serenely from endlessly copied and much cherished illuminated tomes."

Different strokes for different folks.

Alex

Inside a Chapter itself, the Primarchs, and Past Heros are revered by the chapter, almost to the point of what you could call SaintHood, certain chapters that are overly zealous like the BlackTemplars probably more so.

One thing in the Storm Warden background is that it mentions that they are not very well known, not even in the Calixis sector. This is partly due to the Nemesis incident and being put into stasis. There may be members of the Calixian sector that are descendants of those that survived the planet Vigil. If so they might know of the Storm Wardens and grant them a special reverance.

They are the Emperor's avenging Angels of Death. There is no need for sainthood, and it would be an insult. Celebrating? Revering? Those are fine. But declaring one a Saint of a religion they have nothing but scorn for? By men they have no respect for? Yeah. That'll end well. Don't expect the Marine to feel particularly honoured. Best case scenario, he finds it amusing, like it was a cat bringing him a dead bird. Worst case scenario, bloodbath. Either because he feels so insulted, or because he starts to believe that he deserves to be worshiped.

if it comes to imperial citizens, it depends on world. On some planets SM are treated as saints or half gods, holy progeny of BIG E. In case of SM most chapters are atheist at heart, following corpse god atheist teaching.

If u want Sainthood in style of Sororitas Living Saint. that probably no. (if mr. Matt W. will make 6th edition of space marines codex everything is possible)

one funny thing from one of our sessions, in past KT visited some emperor forsaken Feral World, mission was great success they defeat force of xenos slavers (xeno specie made by me, not some canonical enemy) witch were revered by primitive humans as Gods. Around 20 years later KT return and they see local populace organised and advanced to real world equivalent of bronze era city states. Except locals now "revered" them as star gods.

As a semi-rabid fluff-ologist...

I do not recall any instances of Marine sainthood. That is not to say that they are not sometimes revered , but actual inclusion into the Ministorum 's rolls seems out of character with the background.

Generally Imperial saints tend to be regular humans in extraordinary circumstance...

They are mmuch more then Saints, they are is Angels.