Restricted classes

By Frostfire, in Deathwatch

So, I was thinking over some new chapters in my brain, and it ocured to me that there are a few famous chapters that might have some restricted classes, but I can't figure out if they're like the space wolves or the black templars.

Example:

Do Salamanders have assault marines? Salamanders aren't known for their feats of agility. So does that mean that they should have no assault marines? Or just no jump pack marines? Or is that just unfair?

Do White scars have devistators? Does it make sense for them to have them if they're a fast attack group?

Besides the fact that almost evryone has their own type of chappy, what others can you think of?"

the salamanders are a codex chapter without any known divergence other than a guy whose name i can't remember who hunts for relics of the primarch on his own. they should have devastators.

while white scars are notably less rigid in their adherence to the codex astartes, they have devastators from the novels written about them IIRC.

Sanguinary Priest said:

the salamanders are a codex chapter without any known divergence other than a guy whose name i can't remember who hunts for relics of the primarch on his own. they should have devastators.

while white scars are notably less rigid in their adherence to the codex astartes, they have devastators from the novels written about them IIRC.

You're thinking of Vulkan. Their Forge Father.

Frostfire said:

You're thinking of Vulkan. Their Forge Father.

yup, that's the one. i also noticed i mispoke and meant assault marines for the sallies as per the original question (and not the devs i actually wrote).

Sanguinary Priest said:

the salamanders are a codex chapter without any known divergence

Their main divergences is being composed of 6 companies of 120 Marines each (or, more specifically, 6 companies of 120 men plus a small Scout company containing about 60 aspirants), with a higher proportion of Tactical and Devastator Marines than Assault Marines (they have 2 Assault Squads per battle company, as normal, but 7 Tactical and 3 Devastator squads, while their two reserve companies are composed of 8 Tactical and 4 Devastator squads each; Jump Packs and Land Speeders are awkward to train with in the high-gravity environs of Nocturne, and thus comparatively rare within the Chapter)

N0-1_H3r3 said:

Sanguinary Priest said:

the salamanders are a codex chapter without any known divergence

Their main divergences is being composed of 6 companies of 120 Marines each (or, more specifically, 6 companies of 120 men plus a small Scout company containing about 60 aspirants), with a higher proportion of Tactical and Devastator Marines than Assault Marines (they have 2 Assault Squads per battle company, as normal, but 7 Tactical and 3 Devastator squads, while their two reserve companies are composed of 8 Tactical and 4 Devastator squads each; Jump Packs and Land Speeders are awkward to train with in the high-gravity environs of Nocturne, and thus comparatively rare within the Chapter)

Yeah, this is my point. Now, even though they don't really have assault squads with jet packs, is it ok to take it away, or is it beter to say they have assault marines without jump packs? I can't quit efigure it out.

Why say either one? They're rare, not nonexistant. Someone who would master the jump-pack despite the difficulties certainly sounds like Deathwatch material to me.

Frostfire said:

Do White scars have devistators? Does it make sense for them to have them if they're a fast attack group?

I would guess that the heavy bolter gunners on the trikes are Devistators.

Anyone can fire a Heavy Bolter. IIRC, bike squads and the trikes that go with them are typically crewed by assault squads.

The white scars have all kinds of squads on bikes, not just assault.
Referring to the old index astartes TT army list they had tactical squads on bikes for example. This was what leads to my guess, that they could have distributed their devistators between all sqads, mounting them on trikes.

Of corse you are right, they could be tactical marines, too.

Anybody who wants to do the White Scars should read through this article as a ressource:

www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php

Alex

Seems to be about the same as the Index Astartes.
Exept that my IA is not in english.

It's great fluff wise.

I would suggest reading the books Salamander and Firedrake by Nick Kyme for more information on the Salamanders. Being official Black Library books, the information contained within them can be taken as cannon.
According to those books, Salamander assault squads do indeed use jump packs.

By the way, they're really good (I'm about halfway through Firedrake at the moment, and really enjoying it).