Lets say that my opponent throws a Feline Spike at me. I would like to play Turnabout on this attack, but am unsure at what point a Multiple attack resolves. do I play the Turnabout after te first copy has finished? Or after the third?

I would also like to bring up multiple reversals against a multiple attack. I reversal against a Feline Spike with a Feline Spike. In which order to they all resolve? Is it all of the opponents, then all of mine, or one of theirs, one of mine etc etc?

Sorry if these have both been brought up before, but I really wanted to know

I am not 100% sure of wording on turnabout so ill leave that to someone else...but as far as which multiple would resolve.

Say player A attacks with spike, Enhances with multiple. Player B blocks the original attack, reversals with spike, enhances with multiple.

Think of cards like a stack, LIFO (last in first out). The stack holds cards waiting to be resolved.

Players A multiple go to the stack first. Then Bs go on top of them. They resolve first. The reversal (and its multiples) are a response to the original attack. They resolve before the original attacks multiples.

Now what really gets crazy is when player A spikes, B blocks, reverse with spike, A then blocks, reverses with another spike...i actually had this happen lol.

In this case the 2nd set of players As spikes resolve, then player Bs, then the original copies from player A.

HTH

On the Turnabout question, If you get the original attack (not the multiple copies) then you can multiple it out, if you get a multiple copy with turnabout however it's a blank 7/1 4h8 +1L attack (in the case of spike). The "resolving" part of the card is when an attack (multple copies are still seperate attacks) finishes its steps (enhance, block, damage).

*STAMP* for all of the above

AssaultSteve said:

Note that if you Turnabout a Feline Spike, the multiple copies of Turnabout will be 4 difficulty, 2 control, 0mid0 with no block modifier.

Tagrineth said:

I'm sorry about having to revive a really old thread but I feel I should try to rectify this.

I don't believe the multiple copies of Turnabout would be a 0m0 because Turnabout states "this card becomes an exact printed copy of the attack" and the multiple enhance reads "speed and damage values equal to the printed values". Since Turnabout's values are considered to be printed on that card, the multiple copies of Turnabout would then be 4h8's as well.

Its been ruled that it forces 0(zone)0 dmg. There are NO printed dmg,zone, or speed. it is in the omnifaq as well.

Oh, okay. I'm sorry then. =)

Hayamachop said:

Oh, I had just read the Omni-faq and it reads "If turnabout is used against a multiple's copy, it will be a 0speed 0 damage attack [Antigoth 06/18/09]". Note that Antigoth had said that if it is used against a MULTIPLE'S COPY and not the original attack.

Tagrineth had stated that if you Turnabout a Feline Spike (not its multiple copies) that Turnabout's copies would be 0m0. The Omni-faq mentions it being used on a multiple's copy, not the original attack (Feline Spike) because any multiple copies have no printed text. Therefore, by you using Turnabout on Feline Spike you can still have your multiple copies be 4h8 and still abide by the rules. This happens because that Turnabout specifically states that the card gains the text and it is to be considered PRINTED text.

I'm glad to have rectified this. =)

Um, im pretty sure that ruling is incorrect...i think i can find it but antigoth ruled this rule incorrectly during canadian nats? and therefore has recinded that ruling...I'll see if i can find it XD

i found it!!
http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp?efpag=3&efid=30&efcid=5&efidt=134644

Look at reply 46 from antigoth.

Alrighty, so they're eratta-ing the card to remove the words 'exact printed' from it. I hope they publish that eratta document soon so I don't have to find a computer with an internet connection to prove this stuff to my friends. =)

Regardless, it's not "considered to have printed values etc." it's "considered to have values equal to the printed values of etc.", not that complicated

basically if you Turnabout an attack you'll always take its printed values, that's what it's saying, nothing more