Two questions

By Toscadero, in Descent: Journeys in the Dark

I've got two clarification questions.

Does Windpact also work on the Overlord's hand of treachery at the beginning of an outdoor encounter? We've been playing that it does.

If an Overlord's skeletons have the sniper ability (able to shoot through one obstacle) can they shoot through a tree that contains a figure or are they considered two obstacles even though they are in the same space? We've been playing that they are two separate obstacles.

Thanks

Toscadero said:

I've got two clarification questions.

Does Windpact also work on the Overlord's hand of treachery at the beginning of an outdoor encounter? We've been playing that it does.

Yes. Pretty sure there is an entry in the FAQ that specifically answers this one.

Toscadero said:

If an Overlord's skeletons have the sniper ability (able to shoot through one obstacle) can they shoot through a tree that contains a figure or are they considered two obstacles even though they are in the same space? We've been playing that they are two separate obstacles.

I'm gonna leave this one to one of the forum heavyweights as I have no idea how it should be handled.

Yap the second question is interesting and i have been wondering about that my self but i do suspect that they are 2 seperate and that is the way we have been playing it so far.Unless the tree somehow disappears or the guy and the tree merges i would say they are 2 seperate. I am waiting for antistone and corbon to by and punch each other over that one.

You can ignore one obstacle or figure. The rules are very clear. You can't use snipers to shoot past a tree with a figure inside it.

James McMurray said:

You can ignore one obstacle or figure. The rules are very clear. You can't use snipers to shoot past a tree with a figure inside it.

+1. The sniper could ignore the tree and therefore the shadowcloak benefit it provides to the figure on the same space, so the sniper could shoot at the figure in the tree even though he normally couldn't. But he couldn't shoot past the figure in the tree because he can only ignore one of the two LoS-blocking game elements in that space.

Do note, however, that "one obstacle" is generally taken to mean "one bit of cardboard," therefore a sniper could theoretically shoot lengthwise through a 3-space rubble token, as long as it's all one token. In the case of obstacles printed on the map tiles, I think trees are the only ones that actually block LoS and we treat them as each space being an individual "piece of cardboard."

Steve-O, what makes you think the Sniper could successfully shoot a non-adjacent Shadowcloaked figure? He can ignore the tree space when tracing LoS, not when making the attack in general. Shadowcloak has no interaction with LoS, so the Sniper upgrade doesn´t help.

Parathion said:

Steve-O, what makes you think the Sniper could successfully shoot a non-adjacent Shadowcloaked figure? He can ignore the tree space when tracing LoS, not when making the attack in general. Shadowcloak has no interaction with LoS, so the Sniper upgrade doesn´t help.

+1

Parathion said:

Steve-O, what makes you think the Sniper could successfully shoot a non-adjacent Shadowcloaked figure? He can ignore the tree space when tracing LoS, not when making the attack in general. Shadowcloak has no interaction with LoS, so the Sniper upgrade doesn´t help.

Does sniper only work for LoS? My bad, I thought it let you ignore the obstacle completely. In my defense, I haven't actually read the Sniper card recently.