Collector's Edition Box

By Replicant253, in Rogue Trader

Ooo. Do want.

Dang, no postage to America... I'll grab it if you are willing to post to America. :)

Was it a personally named RT CE, or one of the ones with the standard RT name in it?

Mine was personalised but the warrant of trade is not in it (this fits on the left side as shown on picture 2). This is literally just the box.

No reserve on it, so hope it gets a good home. :)

The title of the actual auction is really misleading then, as the title on eBay insinuates that it's the whole book you're selling, as it just says "Rogue Trader Collectors Edition", with the comment about it only being the box being at the very bottom.

I'd suggest changing it, as it could fool people into thinking it's the actual book you are selling.

Sorry but I don't accept that. The title is meant to draw interested people in and i make no apologies for that.

You can't have read the item description properly, first sentence with many exlamation marks states that it is just the box, plus a full explanation on why i have a spare, and then a repeat that it is just the box. All backed up by four photos showing an empty box...not sure i could be any clearer.

I am not out to rip anyone off but i do want to bring it to the attention of fans who would be the most interested. :)

I'm with Millandson on this one.

Why would someone buy the box alone? I wads quite surprised to see it, and would have immediately thought it was a case of the book and full set.

Because it is a nice box? Believe me my Wife has plenty of nice pretty boxes that she keeps stuff in. I have a nice box that i keep all my dice in, and per the listing one suggestion is that someone might want to keep their normal edition in the box and better someone uses it than it gather dust on my shelf. Jesus i only think i'll get a few quid for it if that, i think you need to lighten up a bit and trawl e-bay some more if you are so easily 'surprised' about what you can find on there.

Still, eBay does have a rule about misleading titles for auctions, and that title does very much look like it's for an auction of the book, not just the box. That means you are misleading people into putting bids on what is basically a damaged cover box.

I've reported it over on eBay anyway, as I know it misled me until I spotted the small description, so we'll see if they agree or not.

Don't suppose you'd consider shipping to Australia?

I have to agree with Millandson here. If it would say something like Rogue Trader Collector's Edition Case thats different, but a knee jerk reaction when you see that is to think "OMG, the collector's edition" and true it is the buyer's fault if they bid without reading further, but the intent does seem to do just that.

I said seem, doesnt mean it was your intent.

I have to agree with millandson here.

I do not know why you did it. But its exactly the same as sometimes askin for 15 bucks for shipping to send a package a hundred miles only (said package being slightly larger than a normal letter). Yes people have to read fully about stuff on ebay, but you are suckering people in. If we were talking a damaged standard fare box, people normally dont go crazy about it, but when its a collectors edition its kinda different.

Caveat emptor?

Personally i don't see a problem with what you put Replicant253 . I actually stumbled on your sale over at evilbay before i saw this thread, and reading your entry it was crystal clear to me you were just selling the box. I don't think you could be said to be misleading anyone in ANY way with that.

Still if Milly has reported you i guess you'll see if the ebay 'powers that be' agree.

Personally i think it'd be harsh in the extreme if they agree that you're misleading anyone since, as you say, you state clearly 'this is just the box'.

Good luck with the sale.

Strangely, i have the CE too and have two boxes at home. Never occurred to me to sell the more damaged one (the replacement was also slightly damaged but by then i'd figured that was as good as it was going to get. My replacement is still packed in cellophane).

I'll be very interested to see if this sells and if so how much for.

How much are CE's going for these days? How much would you pay for one?

*sigh* Regardless of if it's deceptive or not. :) Me or Errant would be interested in you can get it out of the country. :)

Edit: My fiance is in Ireland... does postage consider that as "United Kingdom" as well? :)

Luddite said:

How much are CE's going for these days? How much would you pay for one?

They generally sell for between $2-300 on ebay.

Thrantor said:

*sigh* Regardless of if it's deceptive or not. :) Me or Errant would be interested in you can get it out of the country. :)

Edit: My fiance is in Ireland... does postage consider that as "United Kingdom" as well? :)

I cannot change the postal options on the listing but yes i will ship internationally. It might delay the invoice slightly as i would need to work postage out after bidding has ended.

Just contact me as normal via ebay if you win.

Luddite,

Thank you, slightly baffled by the reaction of some community members.

I'm probably gonna get flamed to death but just stumbled on Millandson's post on a totally unrelated subject on the DH board and the irony was so great i just had to post it here (last sentence):

Which you'll find is what I said. Still, buying it and then saying "this isn't a Puritan counterpoint to Radicals, therefore it's a bad book" when the book was always stated to be a book about the Ecclesiarchy doesn't really make sense. In that case better research about your purchase should have been carried out.

Posted with a chuckle and wry smile, no hostility meant.

BoM = always advertised as a book about the Ecclesiarchy.

Your eBay auction for a box = named "Rogue Trader Collectors Edition"

Pretty big difference there, I think, since one is erring on the side of scamming, and the other isn't.

Nom, nom. Beaten dead horse.

MILLANDSON said:

Pretty big difference there, I think, since one is erring on the side of scamming, and the other isn't.

That's a serious accusation Millandson.

I'm surpirsed a prospective lawyer like you feels comfortable with such a potentially libelous statement.

Luddite said:

MILLANDSON said:

Pretty big difference there, I think, since one is erring on the side of scamming, and the other isn't.

That's a serious accusation Millandson.

I'm surpirsed a prospective lawyer like you feels comfortable with such a potentially libelous statement.

It's the internet. Libelous statements are as common as porn, and just about as entertaining.

HappyDaze said:

It's the internet. Libelous statements are as common as porn, and just about as entertaining.

Hehe...good point Happydaze. :¬D

I'm surprised there hasn't been the traditional 'post something patently false about the previous poster' thread here at FFG yet.