Adepta Sororita thank you dark heresy

By Battle_Sister_Huber, in Dark Heresy

Rakiel said:

For the table top Sororitas are the only army that is able to use faith powers, yes, but they are the only standing ecclesiarchy army, so its not like there's a whole lot else you could represent.

As an aside, when the original Codex: Sisters of Battle was released, normal Battle Sister squads lacked the ability to use Acts of Faith (only Seraphim had that ability by themselves) - they needed a Sister Superior or similar "Faithful" character to use those abilities. The list of "Faithful" characters included the assortment of Preachers, Missionaries and Confessors that were also part of the armylist... so the Acts of Faith that are so frequently seen as a defining feature of the Adepta Sororitas have been available to non-Sororitas characters pretty much since their first appearance.

N0-1_H3r3 said:

Rakiel said:

For the table top Sororitas are the only army that is able to use faith powers, yes, but they are the only standing ecclesiarchy army, so its not like there's a whole lot else you could represent.

As an aside, when the original Codex: Sisters of Battle was released, normal Battle Sister squads lacked the ability to use Acts of Faith (only Seraphim had that ability by themselves) - they needed a Sister Superior or similar "Faithful" character to use those abilities. The list of "Faithful" characters included the assortment of Preachers, Missionaries and Confessors that were also part of the armylist... so the Acts of Faith that are so frequently seen as a defining feature of the Adepta Sororitas have been available to non-Sororitas characters pretty much since their first appearance.

And you could argue that the faith powers in the TT game are a combined effect of the entire squad's faith and not individual faith.

N0-1_H3r3 said:

Rakiel said:

For the table top Sororitas are the only army that is able to use faith powers, yes, but they are the only standing ecclesiarchy army, so its not like there's a whole lot else you could represent.

As an aside, when the original Codex: Sisters of Battle was released, normal Battle Sister squads lacked the ability to use Acts of Faith (only Seraphim had that ability by themselves) - they needed a Sister Superior or similar "Faithful" character to use those abilities. The list of "Faithful" characters included the assortment of Preachers, Missionaries and Confessors that were also part of the armylist... so the Acts of Faith that are so frequently seen as a defining feature of the Adepta Sororitas have been available to non-Sororitas characters pretty much since their first appearance.

N0-1_H3r3 said:

Rakiel said:

For the table top Sororitas are the only army that is able to use faith powers, yes, but they are the only standing ecclesiarchy army, so its not like there's a whole lot else you could represent.

As an aside, when the original Codex: Sisters of Battle was released, normal Battle Sister squads lacked the ability to use Acts of Faith (only Seraphim had that ability by themselves) - they needed a Sister Superior or similar "Faithful" character to use those abilities. The list of "Faithful" characters included the assortment of Preachers, Missionaries and Confessors that were also part of the armylist... so the Acts of Faith that are so frequently seen as a defining feature of the Adepta Sororitas have been available to non-Sororitas characters pretty much since their first appearance.

Herp derp on my end than. I've never played the TT so I only have a loose knowledge of how exactly it works there; from what I know Acts of Faith are exclusive to Sororitas army list (not necessarily themselves, just anything that falls under it like the preachers.etc), and are fueled by having certain squads, or at least a large number of certain squads. So its not something you would see really manifesting individually in a Sororitas so much as across the entire army due to a large gathering of devout individuals.

*Shrug*

But I could be entirely wrong. Either way, its not like its a "girls only" faith power at all.

from france

okay i forgot the black priest.

but it was fun to start a joke about complaining player who want male faith power. it was fun because for the first time a joke for too serious player woked. i mean. how many people really believe it?

when we complain because sista lack ascension level it serious and thank ffg it have been answered. but do you really believed that ffg will aswer to this ?

finaly i touhght it was a good idea before someone rellay believe about it and bring here the idea seriously.

well in some way it wasn't a succes 'cause it was taken too seriously.

bah forget it. i stop the joke for a while.

ps: i didn't write laugh before the joke it would have make it less funy so i wrongly thougth

and yeah 8 spider ty i have finished the book its too be honest utterly awesome one of the best ones theyve done so far

i havent read the grey night novel no but ill see if i can pick it up in my local games workshop

Just want to echo what people have been saying. GW and the BL do a terrible job of including woemn in their games. Sure they have a few all-female Amazon type units but rarely to they casually fit them in. I think GW has done like 4 female IG in the last 20 years.

So hats of to FFG!

ItsUncertainWho said:

Trodamus said:

if a girl wanted to play a female space marine, I'd let her. Why? Who cares, it's what she wants and has no mechanical impact and a negligible affect on the fluff.

By your statement it doesn't matter. When the prime argument is "because I'm a girl", why make a distinction, why not just play to canon?

There's lots of arguing about this, including people who cite made-up genetics. I think it boils down to "the Imperium are a bunch of asses who won't let women be Space Marines, but we don't have to be".

Why should fictional rules trump letting a player have fun? Seriously if GW said 'there are no dark skinned marines' would we even consider accepting that rule?

Kid Kyoto said:

By your statement it doesn't matter. When the prime argument is "because I'm a girl", why make a distinction, why not just play to canon?

There's lots of arguing about this, including people who cite made-up genetics. I think it boils down to "the Imperium are a bunch of asses who won't let women be Space Marines, but we don't have to be".

Why should fictional rules trump letting a player have fun? Seriously if GW said 'there are no dark skinned marines' would we even consider accepting that rule?

You mean made up genetics about made up space marines? I cannot fathom why the imperium would care if Space Marines were male or female. If it smites evil, it smites evil. Case in point, the finance, support and tolerate sisters of battle, female inquisitors, female guardsmen, female arbites, female tech priests, female clergy, female gangers, female rogue traders and so forth.

Why are there so few female minis? Well the game originated in the 80s/90s where most players were males wanting to play males. If you step back and look at it, that still describes the majority of the hobby.

So back to topic, it isnt a decision the Imperium made about no female space marines, its a decision the writers made about the made up genetics, about a made up psychic messiah god emperor and his made up gene seed clones to make made up space marines.

Peacekeeper_b said:

So back to topic, it isnt a decision the Imperium made about no female space marines, its a decision the writers made about the made up genetics, about a made up psychic messiah god emperor and his made up gene seed clones to make made up space marines.

Well said!

And I'm pretty sure any technology that has the science to make 10' tall superwarriors can also figure out how to make them out of women. IMHO it's Imperial (and GW) sexism that stops female marines, not anything that even vaguely looks like science.

Kid Kyoto said:

Just want to echo what people have been saying. GW and the BL do a terrible job of including woemn in their games. Sure they have a few all-female Amazon type units but rarely to they casually fit them in. I think GW has done like 4 female IG in the last 20 years.

GW and FFG have different markets. GW's market is to a large extent (I think) children and young adolescents, mainly male ones. FFG's audience is older. So the difference is not a big surprise.

Kid Kyoto said:

Peacekeeper_b said:

So back to topic, it isnt a decision the Imperium made about no female space marines, its a decision the writers made about the made up genetics, about a made up psychic messiah god emperor and his made up gene seed clones to make made up space marines.

Well said!

And I'm pretty sure any technology that has the science to make 10' tall superwarriors can also figure out how to make them out of women. IMHO it's Imperial (and GW) sexism that stops female marines, not anything that even vaguely looks like science.

There are dark skinned space marines. I believe that its been said in universe that the gene seed rejects in women because its rendered from the all male primarchs. Cite made up genetics; but in universe the whole "there are no female space marines because there cannot be female space marines" is cannon.