Quick Refresher:

Burning on the Sand

Response: If an opponent would win a challenge against you, cancel the determintion of the challenge winner. No one wins the challenge.

By the logic that the card declares no player wins, that forces both players to lose correct? So the martell player would be able to trigger losing a challenge effects as though he/she had lost while not having to fulfill the claim since the attacker lost as well right? So say if I have Doran Martell in play I can let an attacker fail to win by using this card can make him fulfill my claim?

I'll defer to Ktom on this one, but I've always understood that nobody wins is NOT the same as someone loses. It's kind of like if you swing with a 1 STR character and your opponent plays Forever Burning...nobody won and nobody lost. Again, I could be wrong about that though.

If nobody wins, then nobody loses. If Burning of the Sand fully resolves, the challenge resolves with no winner and no loser.

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i feel like we need an event card as follows:

"Ponder"

Response: After a Tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it claim 15 power.

thoughts?

Sounds like a Baratheon card to me.

FATMOUSE said:

"Burning Sands" effectively creates a "draw." No winners. No losers.