Does Tory's ability trigger when a quarum card is played via President's Office?

I would guess so but the way it is worded the action on the office is played, not the card itself.

The action is occuring on the quorum card as well, so yes, the ability triggers because she is playing an action on a quorum card...president's office allows you to draw one and then play one essentialy giving her an extra action ONLY to play the card.

I agree with Toofy. That is also my understanding of how Tory works.

Now that the question is asked, I realized that my group has been playing it wrong. I think I am disagreeing with the last two post.

The presidents location allows you to draw card, and the draw or play a quorum card. You do not have to use an action to do this, you get to play it.

You can use the president title card, as an action, to draw a quorum card. (from anywhere)

You can, as an action, play a quorum card, any time as president. (from anywhere)

i.e., a president in the brig could be XO'd, use those two action do draw 2, play 2, draw 1 play1, or play1 draw 1. Or any other legal action.

In other words, the presidents office allows you to play the a quorum card, without using an action, after you draw. It does not GIVE you an action.

We had Tory as President, sitting on president location, playing crits, drawing 1, playing 1, drawing purple, draw 1 play 1, draw purple, continue... and then between turns, XO president, draw 1 play 1, draw 2 other cards, draw 1 play 1, draw 2 other cards... pass votes on her own, gain resources left and right, etc... it was crazy. So much so I figured she was broken or we were playing it wrong.

I am now going with "we were playing it wrong"... you have to play a quorum card as an action for her power to trigger... I believe.

RJ

You only get the bonus skill cards when a Quorum card is played. Not when it's drawn or when the president's office is used.

So just to clarify, "After any player uses the action on a Quorum Card" means whenever a Quorum Card is played , regardless of whether it is played as an independent action, as a result of using the president's office, or some other action. Any disagreement?

I have to go with RJ on this one. The text on her card reads:

After any player uses the action on a Quorum Card...

This could be interpreted as "After any player uses their action on a Quorum Card...

That differentiates between a player using their action to play a Quorum Card from a player using their action to activate the president's office location.

If the official ruling stands that Tory cannot use her draw ability when activating the president's office location, she's not completely useless. She could be XO'd and draw two Quorum Cards as her first action and then use her second action to just play a Quorum Card. It would be a trade off of drawing fewer Quorum Cards, but still picking up two skill cards.

I'm sure others have already submitted the question about Tory's ability, but I went ahead and asked myself.

Hmm, I'm genuinely surprised to hear that there's this much disagreement. I really feel her ability is clearly worded to allow her to draw from any quorum card played by any method. I'll admit it seems overpowered and wrong, but "shouldn't" is not the same as "doesn't."

Tory Foster says:

"After any player uses the action on a Quorum card ..."

Now let's look at a Quorum Card:

Execute Prisoner says

" Action : Choose a character in the Brig. That character is executed."

The above text represents *the action on a Quorum card*, in this case the card would be "Execute Prisoner." No method of playing it, whether it's part of some card-granted double action (Executive Order, President's Office, Occupation Authority) or a traded movement or bonus action (Critical Situation, State of Emergency, Apollo's ability) makes it stop being an action or stop being on a Quorum card. Obviously, people can house rule what they want, as Tory *does* seem overpowered, but the card says what it says, and I'm not ready to start imagining it's otherwise just because it's too powerful.

Let's look at this another way: suppose the action used by a player is not (or not just) playing the card, but then also using any additional abilities granted by the card. Such as Asign Chief of Staff, Asign MIssion Specialist or the other similar types of cards. Which way is this to be ruled? How do we interpret "action" vs. "Action?"

At present, we are playing it as when a Quorum card is played (Action), Tory draws two cards. But when the MIssion Specialist draws three destination cards, she doesn't draw cards, even though an arguement could be made that her ability triggers at this point.

I really wish that FFG had spoiled Tory before now, as these questions would have been answered already.

JerusalemJones said:

Drawing three destination cards as a mission specialist is not an action. Using the card to reveal the skill cards put in a check is not an action, making politics skill cards count towards the check is not an action. Tory's ability would not trigger from these effects.

I got an answer from FFG Tim Uren about Tory.

Tory does get to draw cards when someone plays a card as part of using the president office. He went so far as to say presidents office is giving you a "special action" that is used only on quorum cards as the second step option.

Thus, only the "action" part of the card counts as the previous poster said. If you assign a quorum card as the action part, the "non-action" part that happens later does not allow Tory to draw cards (but the action part did).