If I understand the FAQ's clarification of Cerberus correctly, I'm still having a hard time seeing the point of him. Sure he hangs out at the door, but if my only opportunity to be "stopped" by him is to land directly on his space, then that seems backwards when 9 times out of 10 I'm going to have rolled enough movement to pass through to the other side.
Cerberus clarification
In order to get beyond the Portal of Power into the Inner Region you have to roll enough to move beyond the PoP.
Rules P19 -
A character can only try to open the Portal if his move is sufficient to carry him beyond it. A character must attempt to open the Portal each time he passes through it; previous passage is no guarantee of future passage.
Cerberus text -
Players may not cross to the Plain of Peril while Cerberus is on the Portal of Power.
Cerberus is a speed bump on the way to the Crown of Command only. It is not supposed to be a hazard for all adventurers in the MIddle Region as spaces are vast and if you were travelling left or right you would miss him completely!
Oh I see, I don't have the Cerberus card in front of me and didn't know he had that bit of text. So if I understand correctly now, according to what you said and what the FAQ says, Cerberus blocks entry through the portal of power, and the only way to actually defeat and remove him is to roll the exact number of movement needed to land on his space exactly.
Drake Leonclaw said:
Oh I see, I don't have the Cerberus card in front of me and didn't know he had that bit of text. So if I understand correctly now, according to what you said and what the FAQ says, Cerberus blocks entry through the portal of power, and the only way to actually defeat and remove him is to roll the exact number of movement needed to land on his space exactly.
The way I underastand what TI said, above, Cerberus is a challenge that you run into when you try to pass through the Portal of Power. In order to pass throught he Portal of Power you must have rolled more than enough movement to step through to the other side. So if you rolled exactly enough movement to land on the space in front of the portal, you would not encounter Cerberus, because you aren't going through the portal.
In other words, Cerberus is a unique challenge in that he catches you mid-move as opposed to most other challenges that you have to land on to encounter.
Much like the Sentinels in the Sacred Pool expansion...
Steve-O said:
The way I underastand what TI said, above, Cerberus is a challenge that you run into when you try to pass through the Portal of Power. In order to pass throught he Portal of Power you must have rolled more than enough movement to step through to the other side. So if you rolled exactly enough movement to land on the space in front of the portal, you would not encounter Cerberus, because you aren't going through the portal.
In other words, Cerberus is a unique challenge in that he catches you mid-move as opposed to most other challenges that you have to land on to encounter.
But it seems to me you WOULD encounter him even if you land on his space with not enough movement to advance. That space is a draw 1 card space, and Cerberus would count as the card to draw. Not to mention the FAQ:
Q1: If Cerberus is on the Portal of Power, does a character
have to land exactly on the Portal of Power to be able to
fight Cerberus or is it treated it like crossing from the Middle
Region to the Inner Region and then fight him on the way
through?
A: A character must land exactly on the Portal of Power
to be able to attack Cerberus. If Cerberus is killed, the
character may attempt to cross the Portal of Power on his
next turn following the normal rules, if he so chooses.
Maybe I'm missing something here?
Seems pretty clear to me, if Cerberus is present and you want to cross the portal of power, you have to kill him first by moving directly on him, next turn you have to move away and on the following turn if your move is sufficient you can attempt to cross the portal of power. This is the way we play it when the Cerberus is present.
frogemoth said:
Seems pretty clear to me, if Cerberus is present and you want to cross the portal of power, you have to kill him first by moving directly on him, next turn you have to move away and on the following turn if your move is sufficient you can attempt to cross the portal of power. This is the way we play it when the Cerberus is present.
Oh I get that, it was just the FAQ's usage of the word "exactly" that suggested you must roll the exact number on the die to land on the portal of power and fight cerberus, and that all other rolls you had to pass over the space until you rolled the exact amount to land directly on the Portal, beat cerberus, and then attempt to enter the inner region next turn.
I guess from now on, based on what TI says, I'll just treat him like the sentinels, in that your turn stops there post fight with cerberus. It just threw me off because his card doesn't say your move ends immediately should you attempt entry into the Plain of Peril
So what's the conclusion? I still have some answers.
1. If Cerberus is on the Portal of Power and I am in the Castle , roll 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6 and want to go to the Inner Region , can I try to fight him? If that's right and I win, can I try to open the Portal of Power in the same turn?
2. If Cerberus is on the Portal of Power , I land there and I don't want to go to the Inner Region , does Cerberus attack me?
3. If I land on the Portal of Power and draw Cerberus , does he attack me?
Rimmer said:
So what's the conclusion? I still have some answers.
1. If Cerberus is on the Portal of Power and I am in the Castle , roll 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6 and want to go to the Inner Region , can I try to fight him? If that's right and I win, can I try to open the Portal of Power in the same turn?
2. If Cerberus is on the Portal of Power , I land there and I don't want to go to the Inner Region , does Cerberus attack me?
3. If I land on the Portal of Power and draw Cerberus , does he attack me?
1: You must first land on the space to defeat Cerberus. You can't open the portal of power on the same turn, after you defeat Cerberus
2: see above: If you land on his space, he attacks you as usual
3: yes. It's a normal enemy encounter
Velhart said:
So you must roll the exact number to land on Cerberus . Otherwise you can't try to go to the Inner Region ?
Rimmer said:
Not via the Portal of Power. Other methods are still valid (Lord of Darkness, Lord of the Pit).
Thank you, Velhart and Dam!
Dam said:
Rimmer said:
Not via the Portal of Power. Other methods are still valid (Lord of Darkness, Lord of the Pit).
Everywhere Lords?