Today we played a game where there was no cylon baseships (except from the first one) until very late in the game (dist. 6). That meant that the president very quickly got all the quorum cards on hand, since she didnt have better things to do.

We were 4 players and the cylon wasn't in the game til after dist. 4 (and no symp.). After the cylon entered the game we kept XO'ing the president to play mugshot, draw quorum card (which was mugshot), play mugshot until the cylon was identified and revealed. A little later two centrurions showed up at our doorstep along with 6 raiders in space - no problem, just keep XO'ing the president who will be able to redraw the cards just played. This way we could also easily have battled food, morale and other problems.

We found this to be a big flaw in the game, and i can see from other posts (like www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp ) that a suggestion could be a hard limit of 10 quorum cards like in the pegasus game. My question is: How do you guys play the basegame - with or without a limit? And is it fair to (mis)use quorum cards like that?

A different approach would be to not allow the reuse of a given quorum card until atleast X other quorum cards have been used. Let me hear your thoughts!

Well, ... at some point, I thought this was a broken game mechanic too, that the president could replay the same quorum card over and over again, while holding the entire deck. So every game resulted into XO'ing the president to draw the entire deck.

Until that day where the president was the cylon, and let everyone XO him to draw the entire deck. Then, on a next XO, he played arrest order on two humans. On his next turn, he drew the arrest order again to arrest the third human. With all humans in play, the cylon could freely steer galactica to his doom, sending civilians to raiders with communication, and also keeping the humans in the brig.

The same can happen with Saul Tigh, who can take the presidency.

So the game fixed this broken mechanic on it's own ... now we only start XO'ing the president to a full quorum hand once all loyalties are know, and then it is too late to draw the whole deck.

A few other remarks:

- try playing other characters from time to time: Roslin is not that good in drawing the whole deck, since she cannot activate her own office that often in 1 round.

- food rationing and inspirationa speech get removed from game once succesfull, so you can only gain up to 2 food and 4 morale with the quorum deck.

If you're able to pick up the whole Quorum deck, the Cylon player(s) are probably up a creek anyway.

i dont know why i said "she" about the president...it was Zerek in this game....

And i agree that the president should never be XO'ed like that before you're sure he is human.

Anyway, the things is that within the first round the presidents single loyalty card was checked by another player (A) who informed everybody that the president was one of the good guys. Since only one cylon could be in the game Player A would never lie about the president being human:

- If A is human and says the prez is human we would believe him

- If A is cylon and says the prez is human we would believe him. (Had we had two cylons in the game this would not be the case)

Having a human president we kept XO'ing him and that's how he ended up with the stack...maybe we shouldn't have done that until clearing the president after jumping dist. 4?

And we hadn't noticed that succesfull morale and food quorum cards gets pulled from the stack, but it's a good point!