Hi, while playing my high-elves/lizardmen indirect damage deck against my friends dwarves deck we were having doubts about if indirect damage could be cancelled by toughness. We ruled it was possible, but after the game looking into the faq I just want to know for sure.

From the faq:

• Indirect Damage is non-combat damage that is dealt to a target player.
• Non Combat Damage is always applied as soon as it is assigned before any other actions can be taken.

Now toughness is not an action I guess, but it does say "as soon as it is assigned", for me suggesting that there is no timing window for tougness to kick in. However, the faq also describes:

• a player cannot assign more indirect damage to a unit than what it would take to destroy the unit (this includes Toughness and other damage cancellation effects).

Well this confuses me a bit, since it now describes speciffically the word toughness, suggesting toughness does cancel indirect damage. Maybe someone could clarify something for me of how the faq should be read (english is not my first language).

PS now I am reading the "dealt damage" part as well in the faq, realizing Outpost of Tiranoc is not that great anymore (well against dwarves it sucks, because all the cards that cause indirect damage are individually handled, never get stacked, and get cancelled before Outpost can double its damage....)

Only things Toughness doesn't work on are uncancellable damage and moving damage. For everything else, it kicks in prior to damage being applied. For non-combat damage there is no action window between assign and apply, but Toughness doesn't need it since it's not an action. It just works. Toughness is the bane of IDD, you just spread the damage around enough that nobody takes any actual damage, Toughness takes care of it all.

Also, Outpost of Tiranoc doesn't double the indirect damage, it just gives +1 IDD per Outpost per IDD source.

Does this IDD counts as a new IDD source or tags on to the old IDD (for toughness/savage purposes)?

tangoraven said:

For Outpost of Tiranoc I believe it adds to the old IDD source. So Descendant of Indraugnir (4 IDD when it attacks) with 1 OoT would hand out 5 IDD when it attacks.

Is Toughness a card effect?

If yes this would mean that White Tower Aspirant makes it worthless against IDD

ysgarran said:

"There are four different types of card effects in the
Warhammer: Invasion LCG. These are: actions,
forced effects, constant effects, and keywords." (p. 15)

And Toughness is a keyword. Trouble is keeping WTA alive long enough have it do some good, Grudge Thrower + Dwarf Ranger make it their prime target.