- first question: are the gold tokens on dayne characters usable for paying stuff like shadows or marshaling?
- second question: i use "blood for blood" as a response and my dying character has a printed strength of 2 but i have given a +2. Can i kill a 4 or a 2?
THANKS!!
Carnemark said:
No, only Tywin Lannister allows you to do this (You may spend gold tokens on Tywin Lannister as if they are in your gold pool.)
Carnemark said:
If card doesn't say "printed", then it means current value (i.e. 4).
Rogue30 said:
No, only Tywin Lannister allows you to do this (You may spend gold tokens on Tywin Lannister as if they are in your gold pool.)
The rules say that you can only spend gold that is in your gold pool when paying for stuff. That means that unless there is a specific card effect telling you otherwise, gold tokens anywhere else cannot be spent, do not count toward Dominance, etc. On the bright side, the rules also say that only your gold pool is emptied during the Taxation phase, so all those gold tokens on the Dayne characters, etc. are not discarded at the end of the round.
Rogue30 said:
If card doesn't say "printed", then it means current value (i.e. 4).
To avoid making another repeat topic (like I did with Starfall) if a character with gold tokens like Knights of the Sun is dying, and I use Blood for Blood, do I use his printed strength, or the gold modified strength?
If an effect is dependent on printed STR it will specifically say so (i.e. Venomous Blade); otherwise, it is always dependent on current/actual/modified STR.
Thank you for clearing that up for me.
ktom said:
Note that the timing is very, very unlikely to let you give the 2-STR character +2STR between it being killed and playing the "Blood for Blood" event (although technically possible...). But yes, you look at the character's total STR when it died, not its printed STR.
Just to clarify this, let me ask about a specific scenario. A character is killed for claim, and that character has an attachment (say, Rusted Sword) that gives +2 STR, for a total of 4 STR. The defending player plays Blood for Blood to "choose and kill 1 character with equal or lower STR." Does this allow you to kill a character with 4 STR? At first, I thought no, but after reading the FAQ more closely, I'd say yes:
In other words, a Moribund card is considered
to have left play but is physically still in play
and retains its abilities (including attachments
and their abilities) and is allowed to interact
with the game as normal until it is finally (and
physically) placed in the discard/dead pile or
returned to hand/deck during Step 6 of the
action window.
(Page 16 of the FAQ)
Am I correct in this analysis?
Delobius said:
The comment I made earlier was about the technical possibility that a 2-STR character could die for claim, a player could use Response #1 to give it +2 STR in moribund, then Response #2 would be Blood for Blood (and able to kill a 4-STR instead of a 2-STR). You can mostly ignore that because it is very, very unlikely to happen.