Hi,

I know this has probably been asked many times but I just wanna make sure I understand this correctly.

The Effect on Motley basicaly adds a conditioin to a Character that makes him useless if the controlling player doesnt pay me 1 Gold, because of the If target player wants to do X ... he must do Y clause.

Magister Illyrio on the other hand just states that if an opponent wants to issue a challenge of the type i've chosen he must pay me 1 Gold. So there is no Do X to do Y clause. So in my oppinion that means if my opponent has no Gold he can still issue the challenge and nothing else happens. Am I right?

Thanks in advance for the answers

The difference is that Illyrio requires them to pay when they do X. Motley requires them to pay when they wish to do X.

So with Motley, you must pay the gold in order to do X in the first place. Not having gold thus stops you from doing X in the first place. With Illyrio, after you do X, then you pay the gold. Not having gold does not stop you from doing X in the first place, only from paying after.

Essentially, the wording of Motley and Illyrio are different enough that they act differently.

I hope nothing has changed since this Nate's answer

*Sigh**

The difference between then and now is that without an FAQ entry when they use different words to say the same thing, it's easy to forget the various board rulings on these cards that see so little play (Illyrio, not Motley).

Do what Nate says. Obviously.

ok so basically they both work the same way even though the cards are badly worded. cool. so the magister is not totally crap