New FAQ - Coming Soon ??? - Plus a few other Questions

By The Dog of War, in CoC Rules Discussion

Well...yesterday I got my new AP in the mail, featuring the much-balleyhooed Yog-Sothoth, the Lord of Time and Space (hereafter "The Marius Card" , at least in my mind - lol - after the....stirring... multi-page debate it spawned on these forums).


With the arrival of this card....we SHOULD (right ?) be getting an Updated CoC FAQ by FFG, correct ? After all, the main producer/developer chimed in on that Marius / Yog - thread and mentioned definitively that the FAQ would be updated to include "how they want you to play" the new Yog - vis a vis - Unspeakable Ressurection, etc.

So...has this been done yet ? Or when are we likely to see an update ? Now that he's out and about in the hands of gamers, and could thus appear in Tourney decks, etc - I would think FFG would have to move pretty quickly, lest players be left in limbo as to "how they should play him' - esp. with things like the highly contentious Unspeak-Ress card.

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Now a few minor questions:

- After a player uses a card that allows them to take control of another character (Event cards like Polar Mirage, for example) :

"Play during your opponent's turn, after their characters have been committed to stories.
Action : Choose an opponent's character that is not committed to a story. Take control of that character until the end of the phase, and commit it to a story of your choice, if able."


A handy use for this would be to use Polar Mirage to steal an enemy Ravager from the Deep who has been held back for Defense on your turn....


The question is ...when you play Polar Mirage...as the action...you pick up the card and move it to your side of the table. . . at that point...does the Opponent get a chance to play his Action .....OR ...do you immediately, as a consequence of playing Polar Mirage (and before your opponent gets to counter with an Action of their own) ...get to throw that character into a story right away...(in the case of the Ravager, this would mean you'd get to wound all other characters at the given story...killing them...before your opponent gets to act in response ?).

Take another example, however, ....say something like Blind Submission, which does not have any "and commit it to a story" - wording (like Polar Mirage does). It is the start of your Story Phase... and you are Attacking.

He has one character with Skill-2 or less (say a character that, when committed to a story, has some effect, or lets you draw a Card or something like that) ...and 2 others (Twilight Cannibals) with Skill-4, making them immune to something like Blind Submission, that lets you take control of a character with Skill-2 or less till the end of the phase.

You announce that it is the start of your Story Phase...and you are playing a card // Action - which is Blind Submission. You gain control of the character with Skill-2. Now...at that point....your opponent gets to play something BEFORE you actually get to commit the character you just took, right ?

(this would be different - perhaps - than the situation above with Polar Mirage ... ?)

During the story phase there is are multiple windows for taking actions. The players alternate back and forth taking actions until both pass. The committing is a different action window (I direct you to the action chart of the rulebook).

Soooo the short answer is that your opponent has a chance to play an action after you take his card and put it on your side.

In answer to your first question, there is no promised delivery time on FAQs. They seem to pop up around GenCon, but there are no published schedules or anything of the sort.

Rosh87 said:

Now a few minor questions:

- After a player uses a card that allows them to take control of another character (Event cards like Polar Mirage, for example) :

"Play during your opponent's turn, after their characters have been committed to stories.
Action : Choose an opponent's character that is not committed to a story. Take control of that character until the end of the phase, and commit it to a story of your choice, if able."


A handy use for this would be to use Polar Mirage to steal an enemy Ravager from the Deep who has been held back for Defense on your turn....


The question is ...when you play Polar Mirage...as the action...you pick up the card and move it to your side of the table. . . at that point...does the Opponent get a chance to play his Action .....OR ...do you immediately, as a consequence of playing Polar Mirage (and before your opponent gets to counter with an Action of their own) ...get to throw that character into a story right away...(in the case of the Ravager, this would mean you'd get to wound all other characters at the given story...killing them...before your opponent gets to act in response ?).

rules p.12 : An action is resolved completely before another action may be taken (exception: disrupt, see below).

With Polar you take control and commit the character as a same action (you must resolve completely your action, before your opponent can take an action). Then you trigger the Forced Response from the Ravager. Then your opponent can take its action.

For the Blind submission the action is just to take control of a character (you have no obligation to commit it !). Once you have taken the control, your action is over and your opponent can play an action before you can commit the character.

Polar and Blind have not exactly the same effect !

+1 to dadajef's ruling.

I realized in re-reading it that I didn't make the distinction between the Blind Submission and the polar card. Basically I was just trying to point out the different parts of the story phase with the action windows and the commit windows. But yes, if there is a card that has the commit as part of the action then yes they happen the same.

Thanks Dadajef - your comments were precisely what I suspected. Thanks for confirming.

I really enjoy all the Hasturian "Sneaky Cards" - that exist in the game :-)