Out of curiousity, when I play seeking new slaves for a unit, is that unit considered 'my' unit? Cause Altar of Khaine says that if one of your units would be destroyed, you may pay 1 to return it to your hand. Unlike flames of phoenix, called back,surrender, etc which returns units to owners hands. So is the phrasing deliberate or just a mistake?
Altar of Khaine + Seeking New slaves
The important thing, I think is the timing of activation, if the timing of the activation of the card is when a unit is destroyed in direction of a discard pile. At this moment "your units" are always the units you own because they are going to your discard pile.
But really I am not sure.
Altar of Khaine is activated before a unit hits the discard pile, so I guess it should bounce to your hand?
That is really odd, but I'd agree that the current rules support using AoK on a unit that has been taken with SNS.
having another player's cards in your hand should not be allowed. AoK will need another errata to say "return to owner's hand"
f7eleven said:
having another player's cards in your hand should not be allowed. AoK will need another errata to say "return to owner's hand"
This has already been addressed, I just missed it before. From the FAQ/Rules:
Control and Ownership
Players “own” cards that they included in the deck
they are playing. Players “control” cards that they
own, unless another player steals control of the card
through a game effect. Any time a card leaves play,
it reverts to its owner’s hand, deck, discard pile (as
directed by the effect forcing the card out of play).
Yes, but card text usually trumps general rule text afaik.
Sining said:
Yes, but card text usually trumps general rule text afaik.
I'm pretty sure that rule is in there explicitly to prevent the awkward situation of having your opponents cards in your hand/deck/discard. Submit it as a rules question I guess, since you're right that card text is supposed to prevail.
Sining said:
Yes, but card text usually trumps general rule text afaik.
From Lukas at FFG:
Q. Will Altar of Khaine receive errata to be "you may pay 1 to return it to its owner's hand." The Control and Ownership rules say this isn't allowed, but people say card text overrides rules text, and AoK currently clearly says "your hand".
A. Chances look good.