Grudge Thrower

By Miniaturekingdom, in Warhammer Invasion Rules Questions

Hi everyone, I played a game with my friend yesterday. I use Chaos and he used Dwarf. I have a Nurgle Sorcerer in my quest zone and he have a Ranger in his too. Both have only 1 hit point left. In addition, he had 2 Grudge throwers in his Battlefield. When he triggered his Grudge thrower, sacrificed another dwarf unit and I use my sorcerer to deal 1 damage to his ranger. We have some questions. 1. Who will die? Ranger or Sorcerer or both? 2. How many power will each of his unit gain? +1 or +2(he has 2 grudge throwers)? 3. If he sacrificed 2 dwarf unit and had 2 grudge throwers, how many power will each of his unit gain? happy.gif

Miniaturekingdom said:

Hi everyone, I played a game with my friend yesterday. I use Chaos and he used Dwarf. I have a Nurgle Sorcerer in my quest zone and he have a Ranger in his too. Both have only 1 hit point left. In addition, he had 2 Grudge throwers in his Battlefield. When he triggered his Grudge thrower, sacrificed another dwarf unit and I use my sorcerer to deal 1 damage to his ranger. We have some questions. 1. Who will die? Ranger or Sorcerer or both? 2. How many power will each of his unit gain? +1 or +2(he has 2 grudge throwers)? 3. If he sacrificed 2 dwarf unit and had 2 grudge throwers, how many power will each of his unit gain? happy.gif

If the Dwarves take the first Action, I think only the Sorceror dies (well, and the unit sacrificed of course). Grudge Thrower is sacrifice and as such a cost, so the unit goes away when you use the ability (not when it resolves), thus DR pings your Sorc for 1 dmg due to Forced (which doesn't go on the stack), before you can even use the Sorceror's Action as response.

But if Chaos takes the first Action, then the Sorceror is on the stack and will deal 1 dmg upon resolving, even if he has been killed. So in that case Sorceror and Ranger (+ the GT'd unit) will die.

#2-3: Having 2 GT doesn't make a difference to the amount his units gains. You get the bonus per Action you use from the GT, not per GT. Having 2 GT makes you more protected from Support destruction of course. So if he sacs 1 unit, whether he has 1 or 3 GT, his attacking or defending units get +1 each. If he sacs 2 units, 1-3 GT, still gets +2 only.

If my sorcerer had 2 hit points. Can he sacrifice 2 units simultaneously and use his ranger to kill my sorcerer? Trigger a card effect multiple times count as one action or multiple actions? By the way, Can I respone to a action of myself. For example, my sorcerer is on a quest card. After I deal 1 damage to his unit, I respone this action of myself, sacrifice my sorcerer and trigger the quest action before my opponent can do anything.

In your second example :

He has a ranger + Grudge tower in game

You have your sorcerer with 2 hit points

He can not really sacrifice 2 units simultaneously because this mean that he sacrifices a unit to use Grudge tower then you can play an action in reaction (for example your Sorcerer action), then he can play the action of the grudge tower again.

The opponent always have the priority to play action in reaction.

Just remember that you can play action only in reaction of action and you can not play an action as a reaction of a forced effect (a forced effect never enter a resolution stack of action).

Miniaturekingdom said:

By the way, Can I respone to a action of myself.

You can respond to one of your own actions, but like Shindulus said, opponent has first dibs on responses.

Thanks. Very clear. gran_risa.gif