Intro: Please can someone provide an easy solution to this problem of INSTALLING Strange Eons on a MAC.

What I Have: MacBookPro, Leopard 10.5.8, 32bit Intel

1. I have downloaded Strange Eons or strange-eons-osx-b2668

2. I have downloaded supplemental 32 Beta version soylatte or openjdk6-b16-24_apr_2009-r1

3. i have read both the read me file associated with the install and the informational supplements to attempt the unix based instructions.

4. Currently I am having difficultly with step 3 within the http://cgjennings.ca/eons/download/install_osx.html#OSX that states "Open a new Finder window and choose Go | Go to Folder and enter /usr/local. The folder will open; create a new subfolder here called soylatte (or whatever you like—but remember the name for later)." As i even attempt this step it immediately says FILE NOT FOUND.

5. I am hoping there is someone out there that has enough experience to walk me through step by step instructions to install Strange Eons using MAC language as well as helping me understand how to create a directory for Strange Eons to work. If I have downloaded the wrong components please let me know and continue to provide instructions. I think i am having trouble having the computer understand where Strange Eons and Soylatte live in order to access the application. If it is possible for someone to baby me thru this and say create a folder named this, drop all files here, in terminal type this, then this. These are the instructions I need in order to install this amazing application.

If you can help walk me through how to install this application easily in step by step instructions based on my MAC components I am willing to MAIL you a copy of my expansion for your enjoyment. I have a lot of great game ideas to improve the gameplay of Talisman and am a veteran player of 13 years in the game.

Please help me out.

KUMARA

i have a custom set of 8 new characters along with 2 new game endings, a new adversary for the realms that is free moving similar to ice queen or death, and space and cards for this. i need this program to work to complete the build. I will mail anyone a free copy of my expansion printed, instructions etc in exchange for detailed instructions to get Strange Eons uploaded. Please help a fellow gamer out

Is there NO ONE out there that can help me with an instal of STRANGE EONS???

Message

Ell.

Don't post people's email addresses on the forum. I'd imagine Jon won't mind, but It's just food for web bots and spiders. Tell the requestor to go into his/her profile and send a "friend" request to the pertinent person's forum handle / login ID ("talismanisland" in this case).

Oops your right JC!

Sorry Devon Rice Pudding Jon "e" Boy!!!

i was told you were the master of this problem and could provide a solution. is it possible you have a detailed solution to help me step by step install Strange Eons so i can build my expansions?

kumara

Jon New maintain's the Talisman plugin for Strange Eons, but he isn't the one who maintains SE itself. I have installed SE on my Mac, but I don't really use it; it's just there so I can review and help others with their card / expansion content. All I can do is recommend the following:

1. Rip out and uninstall all of Strange Eons. WARNING: simply deleting the app file is not enough; you must also get rid of all support files it may have installed. Deinstall apps effectively is an area where Macs suck; you may need have/find a utility to do with effectively. Try the freeware AppCleaner; it is not as good as some commercial packages, and I don't know if it will effectively target all files for a Java based app.
2. Check the version of Java you have. Macs suck again in this area for doing so internally. Go to http://www.javatester.org/version.html and look for the pink box in the page. You should have at at least 1.6.0
3. IF YOU DON'T HAVE JAVA 1.6.0... then run your "Software Update". If that doesn't offer you a Java update, well, you might be screwed. Again an area where Macs suck, because almost all Java download pages point Mac users back to Apple Inc to get any Java updates. If you don't get an update for Java, then go http://download.cnet.com/Apple-Java-Update-OS-X/3000-2213_4-10842013.html. It's the not the very latest subversion of Java for Mac, but it will get you into the 1.6.+ range.
4. IF YOU DO HAVE 1.6.0... Attempt a reinstall of SE. Try the 2.1 alpha release first, as that worked for me. If you still have problems, unistall it and step back to the 2.00.8 release.
5. Make sure you / install all the support libraries during installation. If it asks to install anything that isn't labeled for particular Game title, THEN INSTALL IT!
   
   Even if it isn't something you need in the end, it won't hurt to have it. If it asks to install the Plugin Authoring Kit, do it! You won't be using it, but perhaps there's some support file in there that will help. If the installation doesn't ask for it, download and install it.
   
6. Run SE. If you get any error dialogs, just try to get past them to the main program anyway you can. Then might try going to Tools | Update, set up auto check, and run a force update check if possible.

If all this produces something workable, then go to installing the Talisman Plugin from inside the program itself if possible.

If all this DOES NOT produce something workable, then you need to talk to someone about SE itself. Go back to the SE site and seek support help there through submitting a request or visiting the forums to look for people who've have similar issues to what you encounter. Be specific about anomalies you encountered along the way, as simply saying it wouldn't install or run won't be enough for anyone to help you.

this response is excellent though now we are closer to diagnosing the issue.

1. I have Leopard... NOT Snow Leopard. It is asking for me to have Operating system 10.6.2 to install the 1.6 java. Apparently since i have leopard i cannot install the 1.6 java package. I think this is what is hanging me up. I need snow leopard. I cant believe SE wont run on a Leopard OS. The other SE package says it does not support this archtitecture... no idea what that means.

any ideas with the leopard OS for mac for install with this? Keep it up we are solving this closer. I am going to track down a snow leopard.

z

There might be an old version of SE around, but the problem is that the current Talisman plugin is designed and updated for the current SE. I hate to say it, but I think you're dead in the water. By chance do you have multiboot with the capability to run WinXP, Linux, anthing else to give SE a current Java environment? I know for a fact the latest Java runs on most other older OS platforms. You're problem is the Mac OS, and Apple's obsession with doing their own version of ever Java release.

If the directory does not exist, create it. You can go to /usr instead, then create a local directory "local" and proceed from there. The following commands will do this from a shell, but you can also do this in the usual way from Finder if you prefer:

mkdir -p /usr/local/soylatte

You can then continue at Step 3, and the soylatte folder will already be there.

Note that if you don't want to put SoyLatte there, you don't have to. You can put it anywhere you want, including in the same directory as Strange Eons. The listed instructions install it in the "right" place in case you want to use Java 6 with other things. To put it somewhere else, you just need to update the line JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/... so that the /usr/local/... part is the main soylatte directory (inside of this directory there must be, among other things, another directory called "bin").

Cheers,
Chris