Descendant of Indraugnir: Action: When this unit attacks, deal 4 indirect damage to each opponent.

Outpost of Tiranoc: Whenever you deal indirect damage, deal an additional point of indirect damage.

I am wondering if I had for instance two descendants in play and 3 outposts of tiranoc, when indirect damage is dealt, would it be one instance of 8 or two instances of 4. two instances of 4 can be soaked up by the same toughness if i am correct.

Also, in the case that the indirect damage is soaked up by toughness, do the additional points of indirect damage still get added or no?

As i read it, it could be taken one of 7 ways. (use above situation, 2 DoI and 3 OoT)

1: the indirect damage from the descendants stack and outposts add immediately meaning a total of 11 indirect damage.

2: the indirect damage of the descendants does not stack but the outposts stack immediately for each dragon meaning two instances of 7

3: the indirect damage of the descendants stacks and the outposts stack immediately for each dragon totaling 14 indirect damage.

4: the indirect damage from the descendants stacks but the outposts are only accounted for as long as a damage counter is placed on the opposing side (8 then 3 more)

5: the indirect damage of the descendants does not stack and the outposts are added to the total only if a damage counter is placed (4 then 4 then 3 more)

6:the indirect damage of the descendants stack but the outposts only stack for each descendant if a damage counter was placed (8 then 6)

7: the indirect damage of the descendants does not stack and the outposts stack for each descendant only if a damage counter is placed (4 then 4 then 6 more)

I believe it is case number 2. I think this because the outpost says whenever you deal indirect damage and the descendant's action says deal 4 indirect damage. you would do it in order of first one of the descendants meaning 4+3 and then the other descendant of 4+3. this is two instances where you deal indirect damage and three deal an additional point of indirect damage. to me that means 2 sets of 7.

Now to throw another wrench into the mix, if the opposing capitol has a total of 4 toughness, could 4 indirect damage be cancelled, 3 damage counters placed and then repeat process of 4 cancelled and 3 placed? doesn't toughness get applied once per turn or is it per instance?

this is a lot but i have run into this or very similar situations about 5 of the last 12 games i have played. any and all help is appreciated.

In this case, I think indirect damage should be applied like counter-strike. As soon as you declare attackers.. boom. it applies it's indirect damage. Add it up and pass it out. (defender chooses where). That's how my group plays and it seems fair and legal.

Also remember that a defender can apply all the indirect damage to a zone that would-be burned. In effect, nullifying your attack hammers.

I am new to this game, so if any experts have ideas, I'm open for interpretation. I play an indirect damage deck, and love it.

oh..... I also think the Outposts only deal 1 point of indirect each. Not an additional point for each point of ID. 2 points total for the Outposts each time you deal indirect.

Brass said:

It is 2x 4 indirect, both Actions resolved on its own. Had a game just recently where a DoI attacked, sadly the Dark Elves had 2x Morathi's Pegasus in play, both could take 3 damage and still not take any damage because of Toughness 3. Had to spend resources to negate their Toughness, the DoI finally started getting in some indirect damage when attacking.

Brass said:

This is how I read the combo.

Brass said:

No, Toughness works against each damage dealing effect individually. So if you attack with 2x DoI and have 3 TO, you'd deal 7 indirect, then another 7 indirect. Toughness 4 unit could suck up 4 dmg from both actions, leaving 3 and then 3 to be spread around to other targets.

that is how i understood it but i just wanted to clarify thank you!