I stuck a few of these in another thread in the other sub-forum (I think it was Deck Construction) - but we were talking (generally) about powerful cards from the past in there, and I wanted to get everyone's take on one I've found my friend using often in our games...that I felt was pretty darn powerful. I wanted to get some general observations on him from you guys, plus a few minor rules questions on him too.
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1.) - First of all...I was shocked to check the card and discover.....it's NOT a Unique ? - IE - you can have more than one of them in play at a time for your side ? Has this been errated...or am I just missing the "little black dot" next to his name, that signifies "uniqueness" for a card in this game. . . ?
2.) - For some reason...this card strikes me as grossly powerful for what you pay for it...even if you discounted his "special ability / effect" ..... 3-cost (Neutral) - for a 2-Combat, 1-Investigation, 1-Arcane.... AND 3-Skill.
That would be great for 3-Points....on any card, I would think.... but then they throw on Willpower AND Fast on top of that !!! Yet he still costs just 3.
Finally...as if that wasn't enough...they throw on a strong ability (more on that in my next question) which makes him almost unkillable if the opponent is doing anything at all in the game (winning a few success tokens). ALL of that....for 3-Cost. ? ? ?
This has to be the most ridiculous Cost - to - Card Overall Power / Icons / Abilities - card that is currently out, where characters are concerned at least...?
3.) - Lastly....here is the way the special ability for Descendant is worded: Action: Discard 2 of your success tokens to put Descendant of Eibon into play from your hand or into your hand from your discard pile. At the end of the phase, if he is still in play from this effect, return Descendant of Eibon to your hand.
(note that I'm using the Errata for him, which increased the cost to 2-Success Tokens, instead of the 1-printed on the card - which me and my friend had been mistakenly using ...even with this newly realized change...he's still pretty brutal)
Anyways...my question here is....WHEN can you activate this ability ? Pretty much forever...right ? I thought it would be balanced if you only had the turn he went into the discard to be "brought back to your hand" - and after that he was dead for good. But my opponent disagreed, pointing out that there is no "time limit // time frame" listed on the card.
In other words...I ended up killing his Descendant with a Deep One Assault. He went to the discard pile. My opponent only had 2-tokens on one of his stories, and wanted to hold off removing any, so he could take it next turn with some investigation characters (which I could not kill or hold off). So he took that story and about 3-turns later, he had gotten 2-more tokens on another story.
At this point (at the end of my half of the turn), he said...okay, I'll throw off a Success Token (playing by the mistaken on-the-card-printing of 1-token needed)....and pick Descendant back from my discard pile, so I can play him yet again on my turn.
Is that correct ? Is that how he should be played ? - basically he is unkillable (for good) as long as you have success tokens ? (note that it costing 2 now, does change how ludicrous I felt he was playing ....but even with that, he still seems - OVERALL - to be a really strong card, for a really cheap cost...)
= so don't worry about anyone answering them.