Treaty with the "Stag"

By Rozy, in 1. AGoT General Discussion

Hey guys I have seen the spoilers for Kings of teh Storm on Dabblers web, but one thing I didnt see makes me wonder. There is NO Treaty w/ the "Stag" agenda. I thought it will be pretty common to see all the Treaties after the Stark one came up, but seems the Baratheon does not have one. Do you thing it is a mistake, would you like to have Treaty w/ the "Stag"?

Wowzers...Stag's seasonal control is terrific with this crown .

...and I'm liking that Forgotten Plans (plot) card.

It looks like designers got rid of Aegon's Garden and Treaty with the Stag/Storm in this expansion to make way for other cards...maybe the neutral resource cards perhaps (roseroad and searoad).

Eeeeeee! I can't wait to get my hands on this. Baratheon have just had a massive boost.

Thx to dabbler site ;-) In the WE I hope to post the OCTGN2 plugin censored.

the boon boost attachment looks great with Fiery Followers.

I'm just imagining "Knights of the Storm" + The Fox's Teeth + Any 2 claim plot card + New Robert. Sounds like a huge amount of Mayhem. Marshall the Knights, make yourself the first player, then go in for a power challenge with Fox's Teeth to make sure your opponent can't defend, and for your second power challenge, send all your big renown characters in for another power challenge to grab renown . You could potentially steal 4 or so power, and grab as many through renown as you have characters on the field. You might even a couple of power for undefended. Very very rushy and unexpected, IMO.

Can't wait! :D

Rozy said:

Hey guys I have seen the spoilers for Kings of teh Storm on Dabblers web, but one thing I didnt see makes me wonder. There is NO Treaty w/ the "Stag" agenda. I thought it will be pretty common to see all the Treaties after the Stark one came up, but seems the Baratheon does not have one. Do you thing it is a mistake, would you like to have Treaty w/ the "Stag"?

I also expected a treaty with the stag agenda. And i would like to have a treaty with the stag agenda. Or better a one card solution - just one treaty agenda with the new gametext (- 5 power). I don´t think we need an extra agenda card for every house.

By the way it´nice that the neutral "house" card received some support with the re-release of the neutral limited +1 gold locations.

Rozy said:

Hey guys I have seen the spoilers for Kings of teh Storm on Dabblers web, but one thing I didnt see makes me wonder. There is NO Treaty w/ the "Stag" agenda. I thought it will be pretty common to see all the Treaties after the Stark one came up, but seems the Baratheon does not have one. Do you thing it is a mistake, would you like to have Treaty w/ the "Stag"?

Rozy said:

Hey guys I have seen the spoilers for Kings of teh Storm on Dabblers web, but one thing I didnt see makes me wonder. There is NO Treaty w/ the "Stag" agenda. I thought it will be pretty common to see all the Treaties after the Stark one came up, but seems the Baratheon does not have one. Do you thing it is a mistake, would you like to have Treaty w/ the "Stag"?

I would eventually like to see a "Treaty with the Stag" card, but honestly:

1.) I've never run a "treaty" deck.

2.) If I did want to run a Baratheon "treaty" deck, the rules are the same for every house, so I could pretty easily create a "proxy" Treay with the Stag card. It wouldn't be tournament legal, but you don't see a lot of treaty decks in tournaments anyway.

3.) If the designers thought there was a card in this set that was more important than the "treaty" card, they were probably right, since I'm probably more likely to run almost any Baratheon card than a treaty agenda.

So while I'd eventually like to see one down the line, just for symmetry's sake, I'm kind of glad I didn't lose a card slot in this set to the obligatory "treaty" agenda, which I wouldn't run anyways.

Wowzers, where did Dabbler get all of that ? Awesome to see though. Time to go and drool, I cannot wait for this to come out. Too much waiting makes Totamish something something....(simpsons episode reference)

Old Ben said:

release of the neutral limited +1 gold locations.

+1. This is, hands down, one of the best support released for the Neutral House Card I've seen until now.

Thank the Seven for Forgotten Plans. Finally a reliable check on Turn 1 Fear of Winter.

Location hate Saan is back. I didn't figure on that. Just nasty if you don't have a quick answer for him.

Direct Assault is good choice for a reprint of a event, I think. Should make a good number of Bara and Stark decks.

The Intrigue Gambit trait on Forgotten Plans is new, right?

Power of Faith! Woot!

Stag Lord said:

Thank the Seven for Forgotten Plans. Finally a reliable check on Turn 1 Fear of Winter.

I thought this one would be coming back, and feel it should always be around. Will counter a number of things and will be used in many plot decks.

Is the expansion in stores now ?

I don't think so. FF have not announced it's release yet. However wasn't it previously mentioned that it was on the same shipping list as Death Angel? That's arrived at my local.

goshdarnstud said:

Power of Faith! Woot!

Yeah good to see Power of Faith. Ruby of R'hllor was also a bit of an eybebrow-raiser. They're clearly trying hard to make asshai decks fully viable. Which is great, but a bit scary.

The Ned in me is also a bit sad that you can't use the ruby and the new stannis together

Nice to see some stuff for the neutral decks too. I've been a bit underwhelmed by the brotherhood cards so far but hopefully as the cycle continues they'll get at least as much love as asshai have gotten already.

SharpyShuffle said:

The Ned in me is also a bit sad that you can't use the ruby and the new stannis together

Maybe if Stannis were just a little more of a fanatic , Mel would let him wear the ruby.

Toqtamish said:

Is the expansion in stores now ?

Projected US release in on the 22nd, but not all stores will have them that day. Should hit shelves late next week/early following week.

This is an impressive set. Love to see Iron Throne set cards (and themes) coming back.

Odd then that a fully scanned spoiler is up already.

I hope to see it in stores next week so I can pick it up. Been waiting for this one since it was announced for some Baratheon deck building.

FFG has an unusal distribution model, in that certain distributors get product earlier than others. Often their "release date" translate into a) date the distributor receives the product or b) date the distributor can release the product. My store happens to be in Minnesota, and so is my primary distributor, who is only about 20-25 minutes from FFG, so FFG always sends a truck to them with product on the "release date." So I get my games the next day, or next week, depending on when I place my order. Stores than can get to the distributor, or the FFG Events Center, can sell them the release day. So, if your FLGS orders once a week (say, on Mondays, which is common), they might not have the cards until the following week.

King's Pavilion with The Power of Faith = Killer Holy Decks! Might have to try out a Bara Treaty with The Isles deck.

JerusalemJones said:

King's Pavilion with The Power of Faith = Killer Holy Decks! Might have to try out a Bara Treaty with The Isles deck.

You don´t need the treaty just Baratheon is fine. I already tried that and it´s hard to break the deck down to around 60 cards if you are only playing Baratheon. ;-) I also don´t think that the King´s pavillion will highly favor holy decks, there´s still to much kneel around and too less of "Lord of light protect us".

I can see with The Stormlands, everybody rushing to put The Art of Diplomacy into their decks.

Old Ben said:

JerusalemJones said:

King's Pavilion with The Power of Faith = Killer Holy Decks! Might have to try out a Bara Treaty with The Isles deck.

You don´t need the treaty just Baratheon is fine. I already tried that and it´s hard to break the deck down to around 60 cards if you are only playing Baratheon. ;-) I also don´t think that the King´s pavillion will highly favor holy decks, there´s still to much kneel around and too less of "Lord of light protect us".

I'm not saying that this needs to be done, just that I want to try it out. Could be fun, even if it has no chance of being a tournament killer.