new Battlelore Campaign Book!!!! !

When will it be comming out?

Where can we get it?

How much will it cost?

With money beung tight right, I start with the price... Free

Where can we get it... from felow gamers that want to DO something for themselves and their mates.

When will it be comming out?.... well how many mates will work together to get it going? We have HUGE human resorses here, great talents, and energy.

With all that goiing for us we can do it , and I think that we can put it together in a reasonable abount of time. there are 1000's of user scenarios that with the permisson of the authors we can use , or modify.

If you would like to work on the Battlelore Campaign Book ( from gamers for gamers)

Please mail me at:

[email protected]

There is no need to wait , we can start soon soon... so please do take me up on this and we can help ourselves as well as the other lads

Lets do it!

Mike

ooppps I cant edit but I think the title should be:

Battle Lore Campaign Book ( unofficial)

Unofficial cause it will be from gamers for gamers.

very helpful would be gamers that have designed scenarios, also gamers that can make the presentaion look good, gamers that can edit, and gamers that can playtest the scenarios.

we CAN do it,

please do email me if you want to work on battlelore Campaign book (Unofficail) .

even if you have no experiance, but would like to help... please join the effort.

maybe you have suggestions for campaigns that would like to see : Mini Campaigns , thru Maxi campaigns... lets see where we go.. but we hae the talent and ability to do it... so gome and join

Mike

Excellent idea! Is anyone savvy with software that would help make it look more "Battlelore-y" (perhaps a conjunction of Acrobat and/or Photoshop?) and what are you thinking in terms of storyline, adventures, army composition, etc? Like the specifics?

I'm also assuming this will be an extension of Borg-created Battlelore, not a massive overhaul like Elberon's (impressive) stuff? So would there be more content added in terms of game mechanics, units, hero abilities, and other things like that? Or would it simply be an adventure-by-adventure book like what we've already seen with the expansion releases and the "All Along the Watchtower" mini-series? Or what?

Basically the least we'll need is

1) Compelling story that is well-written and peer-reviewed

2) Agreement on how much we want to diverge from the Battlelore core rules

Such as possibly updated Hero & War Council mechanics, fielding mercenaries, etc? This has the chance to have a lot of cool options, so yeah just wondering how much you would want to diverge from the game rules to enable actual campaign play. All the while maintaining the simplicity of the game, of course.

Heck yes. I've been making my own historically based scenarios for some time. Since the Halloween season quickly approaches, I'v ebeen reading Dracula: Prince of Many Faces, His Life and Times , a biography of Vlad the Impaler. The book is awesome, and every one of his battles recounted in detail in the book, I'm am taking meticulous notes on so I can re-create Vlad's actual campaigns against (or defending against) the Ottoman Turks. Should make for some great BattleLore battles. If we could start compiling a book(s) of fan made scenarios, that would be awesome. I'm in!

awayputurwpn said:

I would try to stay with Richards BL, maybe only specail things of the campaign demands it.

where is the campaign from Elberon? can you give me the link please

thank you

M

Interceptor said:

that sounds good, can you mail,me please:

[email protected]

and we can taöl about it more

Cheers

M

Maimed said:

Hi there,

Not wishing to self promote but here's a link to my bits.

Campaign wise it's pretty easy, just a spreadsheet that creates a random map put in a few features to capture and away you go anywhere from a nights to a months worth depending on how big a map you go for. (or you could play the Europe wide game using all my additional races.....)
It's also got rules for mercenaries (or to to use the term that came into being during the HYW - 'Free Lances')

What it doesn't have is a series of related games that have cool / strong narrative inter-relating them all, which this idea would dove tail / fill a need (and downloaded by me at least.) If time and creative juices permit I might put in a few ideas.

The other big thing to consider is how many of the expansions will you use (epic,race expansions released by FFG, all since day one, use CTA rules to sub in other sets, perhaps two versions of the same adventure, one vanilla one all in)

Chris

Elberon said:

Hi Chris

your campaign is really a huge and very successful effort.

I was thinking more along the lines of,, lets say ,, Vlad the impailer , for example etc etc etc.. play the battles that are in the campaign,, it is for me more satisfying of the battles have an effect on the fpwolling battles.

IF the is not intresst in doing something along those lines... well screw it. I can save my time and effort.. up till now one player has shown intresst in working on it... the other 150 are just looking.... so with less then 1% intresst.... unless something drasticly changes.... please continue complaining about lack of support for BL etc... can wait for more BL stuff etc.... if you have no intressst in doing it your self,, you deserve what you get... a little,, or more... but you as users have shown not really effort in getting more of YOUR BL for yourself...

I with draw my offer of support... I will continue to buy all of the BL, M44. CCA etc games from Mr Borg.. and will not waste my effort for other that are not willing to lift a hand themselves

ciao ciao

M

Hey Maimed,

Don't give up, just put out a scenario then expand it as you get more done, this sort of project isn't easy to get started. It's kind of like Waynestock, 'if you hold it they will come'. Get a whole bunch together then start making them look 'professional'

Out of those 150 people looking those are visits not unique people so divide 150 viewings between 7 posts and you'd be looking at 2 ish per post or about 30 people tops.

In case you can't tell by my bits I really don't have the experience or software to make things 'sing' presentation wise and my time is seriously curtailed due to life so won't have time to do the research needed for the battles (I like to research before I do something as it'll annoy me more to find something out afterwards and not like the original work), but I'm more than happy to use my 'wet finger in the air' method to critique battles

I think the main thing that may cause you the biggest delay is getting the maps made (has anyone checked out Omega's editor, an update would dovetail nicely here). I looked at doing something in Excel but my VBA isn't up to it.

Come on get a couple of Vlads battles up (first couple from your readings) and lets see what can get started....

Chris

count me in I think I can help.

I have some ideas and a lot of time.

Bihor said:

Hi Efidm

Please mail me at:

[email protected]

and we can talk about everything

Cheers

M

Interceptor said:

This is something that is, for me, missing from the game right now. I love the fantasy aspect and enjoy its development in that direction (though the recent expansions have been somewhat underwhelming), but I'd enjoy a strong follow-up to the 100 Years War pack. There are TONS of excellent historical campaigns than can be mined for scenarios, units, terrain, and so on.

Shoegaze99 said:

Unfortunately/fortunately (depending on ones point of view - I continue to be of the "both is better" mind-set, I always appreciated the dual-nature, historical and fantasy [and mash-up ] inclusion that DoW provided the game) FFG has been pretty explicit that BattleLore will be a fantasy game only, as far as expansions that they produce. Somewhat ironically, it will be the fictional setting of Westeros that will provide the "straight" medieval battles.

I would love for historical battles to continue to see "official" versions (I wager that Mr. Borg has many, many of these ready to go), but have enjoyed several of the user created battles. A campaign book, or simply a set of scenarios, of historical battle scenarios put together by users is something I would certainly be interested in being a part of - playtesting, if not creating, those scenarios.

come on guys, so far I have recieved 2 emails.

if we were even a small group, 3 or 4 people... I would press on and we would get our Campaign bok going,

but after responding to the emaiilos , I recieven no futher responce.

looks like talk talk, but no walk walk.

so, this being a forum, it looks like the coin of the relm is talk talk talk...

OK , I got it... not intresst in DOING something to get a campaign book....

FFG is NOT at fault.... we are ,,,,

toddrew said:

I find the mechanics behind the Westros offshoot very intriguing, but unfortunately it's hard for me to justify adding yet another game to an already bulging rotation of games, especially when several of them are relatively similar in nature. (We play all the C&C games.)

I think you're right, though, it appears Westros will play this style of combat straight. I'm also with you about appreciating the hybrid nature of BattleLore. The idea that it can do both historical combat and fantasy combat is great. I see no reason why both couldn't be exploited, but if that's not in the business plan, it's not in the business plan. So be it.

Maimed said:

I'm going to be honest with you. The following may come across as harsh, but don't take it that way. Take it constructively, which is how I intend it.

You're a guy on a message board with an idea. That's great, but big deal. People on message boards with an idea are a dime a dozen. You've offered no reason OTHER than an idea for people to rally around you.

If you want people on board with a project of this size and ambition, you've got to at least show people that you're capable of leading the way on it. Show people projects you've seen through to completion. Show that you're capable of creating such a product. Show that you can collaborate with people. Can lead a team. Can create good content. Do more than make a few painfully error-riddled posts.

Because let's me honest here: Thus far that's what we've seen. A few posts littered with spelling and grammatical errors. With all due respect, I would not even for a moment consider devoting a good deal of time to a project if that's all I had to go on. I'm sure your intentions are good and I fully support your idea, but right now all signals point to "waste of time."

It doesn't need to be that way, though. If you want to lead the way, start by DOING something. Get the ball rolling on your own. Begin creating. Outline your concept and do it intelligently, error-free, showing that you have a clear vision of what you want to do and how to go about it. Begin creating content for it. Establish a history people can look at. Show them they can trust you to be the rallying point for this. "Come on guys, let's go!" just doesn't cut it.

Again, I'm not trying to attack you, I'm trying to help you. I've been down this road and have led big collaborations like this before. (I do it for a living, in fact.) I can tell you from experience that the result you've gotten so far is the ONLY result you'll get given your approach.

Shoegaze99 said:

poor spelling will at my age not be getting any better I am afraid, nor will my typing.

as to where we go,, I am a gamer , so I really do care if it is more towards fantasy , or more towards historical. .

I have done game developemnt fora game or two, the developers were always satisifed,with my work.

here I am solo, so kicking around ideas, wont work,soit is by net nor not at all.

Shoe,your mail was very polite thank you for your help.

my spellling , grammer , typing , etc is not good, but my game testing is top and suggestions were often used. but being a solo "player" I was looking to do something with mates,, I am reallygetting on in age,,,, 65 now, in spring 66,, so I am the age were I have to get along as best I can,with these mashines(PCs)

again Shoe,thank you for your helpfulcomments

Cheers

M

Maimed, first i want to say thank you for taking my post in the spirit in which it was intended. Many people wouldn't have. You did. That says a lot about your character.

Second, I can't tell you how awesome it is to hear that you're in your 60s and still an avid and excited gamer. That's so fantastic. My first thought was, "I want to have a beer with this guy and do some gaming!"

I think your idea is a really good one and I'd be excited if some folks in the BattleLore community took you up on it and made it happen.

For what it's worth, Maimed, I am happy to be involved in projects like these, but am not going to pursue them with much gusto until "official" BL is all rolled out. It seems to me that things will likely be wrapped up with Bearded Brave (with the same caveat I always add: hope to heck I am wrong), and if so, then the projects that I will tackle, be it solo or with others (preferred):

1) revamping existing Call to Arms

2) adding more races

3) developing campaign rules & scenarios

I am still sitting tight and waiting to see which directions FFG takes the game. They certainly may take care of all three of those.

Shoegaze99 said:

SORRY for my slow answer, my PC burned! yeiks... like smoke , well it smelled like smoke, and I lost all my links etc.... sigh.

I had a friend visit me today and we talked about BL campaigns. and we decided , we need to see WHERE it will take place.

I really do not care where it takes place, Spain, France, Germany , England, etc etc. it does not mattewr much if the campaign is between say France and England, or France and France ( Burgundy etc) , or Serbs and Turks etc etc. or Dwarfs vs mankind , etc etc.

we kicked it arround , and the cards are a simple answer, we would be missing out on special stuff that a more narative style would offer.

would anyone like to help with the campaign.

to be honest , this will be our first BL campaign and we would be grateful if soneone would like to join.

also players that would be willing to test battles etc. two heads are good more are better, we have a lot of smart people here, people with gaming practice, but look I am 65 alreaedy and if FFG decieds to do something in in 5+ years.... well the life expecitancy of men is not soooo long, so I would rather do something my self , and not wait for FFG, the US Government, etc,,, we the gamers can do it ourselves,,, right? right!

first we need to do a BL Campaign and then wee can continue the developement until we have a great system.

anys takers?

Cheers

M

I know you aren't a big fan of Vassal, but I would be happy to take part in a campaign played out using it. I've been involved in two, and although neither really reached completion, I enjoyed my time with each. Myself and three other players were recently talking about starting up another one.

Hi there,

Have you seen my take on a campaign system javascript:void(0);/*1290246387607*/ . There's four versions,
a (long) night,
a weekend
a pretty much open ended
the same as above but also uses all my home brew races.

It uses Excel to create random terrain which then goes onto impact on the battlemaps. I tried some of the open source excel versions but I couldn't get them to look right (and as it had already taken six months work and second child was due I've never picked that side of things up again)

Chris

toddrew said:

no vassal.

A campaign game.

we are kicking ideas around,,, if historical or fantasy,.... makes no diffrence.

please mail me and we can kick some ideas around. it can be Bretonia vs France, oe France vs Biurgund, or the reconquest of Spain, or goblin rainders in the Empire etc etc...

if you are intressted please mail me. if not.... no problem.... I really will get this going,, with help... but please lets stay focust... not "I dont have time, the world will end etc" the campaign... and we can do it and offer it to the fellow fans... or we can wait for the gaming Czar to do it for us or we can do it ourselves. eh?

Cheers

Mike