Okay, first, great supplent, second, I think it has some minor mistakes...
Weapons:
Mark III Assault Stubber, shouldn't this be a Heavy Weapon (including Ammo its 46kg), it is listed as Basic
Eldar Blaster, is listed as being a basic weapon but should be a pistol
More?
Into the Storm, the Errata
Santiago said:
Eldar Blaster, is listed as being a basic weapon but should be a pistol
Not actually a mistake - it's a Dark Eldar weapon, and while it's small and light enough to be used one-handed (certain models armed with it in 40k wield it only in one hand), it's not a pistol (they're Assault 1 in 40k terms). The descriptive text for it in Into the Storm mentions it being pistol-like, but not specifically a pistol.
at the end of the ships section (pg 164), there is no rarity modifier listed for storm troopers detachments in the table. guessing rare/very rare?
Santiago said:
Which is exactly as it should be. It is called an "assault" stubber, and uses a backpack for carrying the ammunition rather than a drum or belt, and lacks a bipod for a reason.
The Gun Cutter description says it can be modified to carry 6 passengers, which I assume is supposed to be 30 as the default passerger load is 6 while the cargo space can be modified to expand this to 30 if I am reading the cargo capacity bit right.
For the Genetor's special talent, Machine of the Flesh, Multiple Arms and Winged are listed as talent groups but they are not on the list of mutations that can be gained for taking the talent. Are these two not supposed to be listed in the talent groups, or were they mistakenly omitted from the list of mutations that can be gained?
I'm pretty sure the Storm trooper detatchment should be Extremely Rare, as for some reason the "Staravar Laser Macrobattery" is in with the upgrades.(pg 164 Table 4-6:Upgrades, line 7) and I don't think weapons count as upgrades (at least none of the other weapons have rarities listed.)
So suggested errata (for anyone who wants to list them.
"Chapter IV: Spaceships, Table 4-6 Upgrades (pg 164) 'Staravar Laser Macrobattery' should read 'Storm Trooper Detachment'. " of course one of the writers could very well infrom me that I am wrong in which case the rarity of the Storm Troopers is something else entirely,
Kalec Fash said:
For the Genetor's special talent, Machine of the Flesh, Multiple Arms and Winged are listed as talent groups but they are not on the list of mutations that can be gained for taking the talent. Are these two not supposed to be listed in the talent groups, or were they mistakenly omitted from the list of mutations that can be gained?
Multiple Arms and Wings are both listed in the text in my original manuscript, but they may have been removed during playtesting, leaving behind the two talent group listings by mistake (called a legacy error; a reference to an old rule no longer present).
Another one from the starships section. Lathe 2b "Escort" Drive has a description in the main text but no entry in the table. Is the table entry missing or does the description paragraph refer to the entry for raiders and frigates under the 2a drive in the table?
Wow, i haven't got the book yet, and i'm allready feeling worried, sheesh ffg what happened, where you all asleep when this was being prepared. Hopefully my mate will get me my copy when he pops into eclectic games in reading tomorrow, i can't wait for mid bloomin october from amazon uk.
Lets hope theres not too many mistakes. I suppose, that's what you get when you print a book on the other side of the world, so you can't check the print run yourself.
Kalec Fash said:
The Gun Cutter description says it can be modified to carry 6 passengers, which I assume is supposed to be 30 as the default passerger load is 6 while the cargo space can be modified to expand this to 30 if I am reading the cargo capacity bit right.
No, the Guncutter stats describe an already modified Gun Cutter that can carry 6 people with their own little rooms, and the cargo space can be used to carry either the amount of cargo stated, or 30 people.
@LittleDave: I believe it refers to the 2a Frigates + Raiders one on the table.
@Fizzywig: Storm Trooper detachments are indeed Extremely Rare, so you are correct in that regard.
Got to say fantastic book, and i'm using it in DH not RT.
One little possible error i've noticed is the location of the Loi Metalworks Armoury - according to the calixis sector page on FFG its based on Lo but according to Into the Storm its homeworld is landunder. anyone care to clarify?
(nb. as an experienced GM I do realise this is probably a "blame it on the warp and move on" error, but as we are just about to start a sandbox style campaign in the Drusus Marches it would be handy to know where the Metalworks are)
Surak
Unless I can buy a Cruiser for 31 ship points the the total cost of the Sovereign Venture is wrong. Also its Weapon Capacity is listed at Dorsal 1, Prow 1 which is wrong. In fact is looks suspiciously like a copy paste of the Bounty of Scintilla.
Kaihlik
Ravion Lupus said:
Wow, i haven't got the book yet, and i'm allready feeling worried, sheesh ffg what happened, where you all asleep when this was being prepared. Hopefully my mate will get me my copy when he pops into eclectic games in reading tomorrow, i can't wait for mid bloomin october from amazon uk.
Ah, this familiar old tune. The moment someone finds something that they percieve to be a mistake (note that some of the things mentioned here aren't mistakes, they just look like they might be to some people), people start hurling abuse. Remember that errors can appear in all stages of the process, not just the initial manuscript - playtesting, editing and layout can all inadvertantly cause issues (if something is changed during playtesting or editing, a reference to an older version of the rule may remain, or a few words of text may be misplaced during layout, etc, etc...). It can happen for all manner of reasons and at almost any stage in the process. It's annoying, but it happens, and it's hardly cause to start insulting people...
Eclectic didn't get many copies in, I'm not sure why. They asked me to sign the ones they did have, so you'll be getting a copy signed by one of the writers if you do get one, but they were going fast (hey,. I'm running a Rogue Trader campaign starting Monday, so my players have been buying copies, and we're far from the only group in or near Reading).
Got my copy yesterday from Orc's nest, have to say it's a thing of beauty,
No-1. Top work, fella, and the same to all the other writers, artists, editors and playtesters!
I've only skimmed it as of yet, as it was a particularly hard day at work yesterday and I was a little frazzled, but I love it. Genuinely brilliant stuff from top to bottom.
Little Dave said:
Another one from the starships section. Lathe 2b "Escort" Drive has a description in the main text but no entry in the table. Is the table entry missing or does the description paragraph refer to the entry for raiders and frigates under the 2a drive in the table?
IT seems to refer to the frigates and raiders entry, at least that's what my reading is telling me
I can't seem to find the classification for Q-Ships and Clippers. What do they fall under?
Fizzywig said:
Little Dave said:
Another one from the starships section. Lathe 2b "Escort" Drive has a description in the main text but no entry in the table. Is the table entry missing or does the description paragraph refer to the entry for raiders and frigates under the 2a drive in the table?
IT seems to refer to the frigates and raiders entry, at least that's what my reading is telling me
That is correct. The 2a is for transports. The 2b for escorts; i.e. frigates and raiders.
I can't seem to find the classification for Q-Ships and Clippers. What do they fall under?
The Q-ship and Clipper are transports hulls; page 151.
-=Brother Praetus=-
Thanks! Someone also pointed out that the Clipper has a keel mount for 360 fire. What weapons can be mounted on a keel mount?
Grand Inquisitor Fulminarex said:
Thanks! Someone also pointed out that the Clipper has a keel mount for 360 fire. What weapons can be mounted on a keel mount?
Well, since it's a transport, any of the battery weapons. No broadsides or lances. So squeeze in a Sunsear battery or something else that's snazzy.
-=Brother Praetus=-
Wow, I have to sit down now and build one.
The Razor Web Launcher, small tubelar fore arm fitted one shot launcher....Heavy exotics....don't think so
from france
i just finaly got mine. hard to find here. i didnt had the time to make anything other than a quick survey. i expected a lots more of the so awaited vehicles in particular civiilan like simple car bt i found none. i expted a rules to create vehicles. but found none. did i make a mistake in expected them?
are they sheduled for a another book? why do we found a rhino and not a chimera wihch is amphibious and more suited to exploration.
well sorry if it is not the proper post but i have so much work that i didn't find the time to search.
the 8 spider said:
from france
i just finaly got mine. hard to find here. i didnt had the time to make anything other than a quick survey. i expected a lots more of the so awaited vehicles in particular civiilan like simple car bt i found none. i expted a rules to create vehicles. but found none. did i make a mistake in expected them?
are they sheduled for a another book? why do we found a rhino and not a chimera wihch is amphibious and more suited to exploration.
well sorry if it is not the proper post but i have so much work that i didn't find the time to search.
Nope, there was never any plan to have rules for making vehicles, just rules for how vehicles work and a load of suggested vehicles. If you look at the examples, though, it's really not that hard to use them as guidelines for making your own vehicles.
I created the chimera, its in the topic "New Vehicles"
Something else that struck me as odd. Kroot do not get Melee Weapon Training (Primative).
The listed damages for the Bloodfire, Howler and Inferno have been mixed up.
The Inferno should have the 3d10X damage, the Bloodfire should have 1d10+3E damage and the Howler should have special damage. At the moment we have the hilarious situation where the non lethal howler kills everyone within 3m with a 3d10X blast and the powerful incediary weapon does lasgun damage.
Also it was pointed out in another thread that Kroot do not get Shadowing anywhere even though they get a +10 bonus to it and seeing that its an advance skill they cant even attempt it.
Kaihlik