Squad Designation

By kenshin138, in Deathwatch

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souljawebb said:

my only response to this is dude are u for real I havent trolled nyone if defending yourself is trolling then by all means call me one, and please show me one reasoned response besides yours.

i stated my thoughts then bam NO-1 "ahhhhhhh you dont know what your talking about"

also how do you know how much interaction I have with games workshop or BL for that matter

Your method of defending yourself could be seen as inflammatory. Reasoned responses? Try the first two to three responses to your post and replies. I won't rehash or requote it all here, but people have simply told you that you were wrong, and pointed out references. Then at one point you were told you should use better sentence structure and spelling for people to take you seriously, and then you start throwing around trolling accusations that you're being trolled. No-1 simply replied telling you, again, that you were wrong, and made a comment about you refusing to believe it.

I'm admittedly guessing about your BL, FF, and GW interaction, but it's an educated guess based on your view and interpretation of canon. The fact that 9 of 10 companies that contract or license out their IP have rigorous vetting processes to ensure the details meet their personal quality bar. They then accept whatever these licensees write as 'canon' or genuine articles of fiction in their universe. Perhaps it's retconned later, perhaps not, but anything that bears the official GW License seal should probably be considered canon because they've approved it as such. In addition, other forum members have pointed out interviews, text, etc, that back up this assertion, and at this point you changed your argument to 'well in my opinion.

I may say George Lucas never made prequels to the original Star Wars movies, or that the Matrix was a single movie and not a trilogy, but that doesn't make it true.

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kenshin138 said:

Wargamer said:

I have no idea if this is even remotely canon but its the system I'm using for my campaign (not set in the Jericho reach BTW)

Each Killteam has a fixed designation, in the case of the players this is Draconis. There is a list of names which are assigned to kill teams as they are formed and returned to the list when the team is destroyed/disbanded. The Draconis name is being brought back into service for this brand new team after 100 years retirement in honour of the last team to bear the name (who were wiped out doing something very heroic which I will think of before the campaign starts in a couple of weeks). By tradition, the Draconis name comes with the Dragon Sword. A best quality power sword which is carried by the squad leader as a badge of office.

This is similar to what I had in mind actually. Good idea. Are you allowing the squad leader to use the sword regardless of renown then, just a GM perk?

Not having my book yet- what level of renown would be required for a best quality power sword? The scale of DW seems to me to be that something like this would be available early on.

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Charmander said:

kenshin138 said:

Wargamer said:

I have no idea if this is even remotely canon but its the system I'm using for my campaign (not set in the Jericho reach BTW)

Each Killteam has a fixed designation, in the case of the players this is Draconis. There is a list of names which are assigned to kill teams as they are formed and returned to the list when the team is destroyed/disbanded. The Draconis name is being brought back into service for this brand new team after 100 years retirement in honour of the last team to bear the name (who were wiped out doing something very heroic which I will think of before the campaign starts in a couple of weeks). By tradition, the Draconis name comes with the Dragon Sword. A best quality power sword which is carried by the squad leader as a badge of office.

This is similar to what I had in mind actually. Good idea. Are you allowing the squad leader to use the sword regardless of renown then, just a GM perk?

Not having my book yet- what level of renown would be required for a best quality power sword? The scale of DW seems to me to be that something like this would be available early on.

Anything "best" or rather, master quality in this system, requires the distinguished rank (40-59) renown, and would take 40 (well, for a power sword at least) requisition to acquire per mission. Fortunately, that does fall within the requirements of the signature gear talent (or rather, the more advanced one), which lets you keep your gear.

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I'm handing out the sword as a GM perk because I'm not using the renown system (at least not to begin with) I'm experimenting with a different power curve by giving the players a whole bunch of kit and they're pick of the armoury at the start and then cutting them off from resupply for the whole campaign. Ideally I want them preparing for the final battle of the campaign with a scene like the one in Aliens where they're counting how much ammo and weapons they have left:

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Bilateralrope said:

ak-73 said:

MILLANDSON said:

No offence, but if you think N0-1 is trolling you, you obviously have never met an actual internet troll. Also, given that the Deathwatch RPG is just as canon as anything else officially published about the 40k setting, your comment of " the FACT is that only things written and published by Gamesworkshop themselves could ever be considered canon " is erroneous, because you have stated it as fact when it is entirely incorrect.

It's also probably best not to go around throwing accusations of trolling at people who aren't doing it, especially when the person you are accusing of trolling is one of the writers for the 40k RPG lines.

Wait... the latter get preferred treatment in here?

Alex

Why is it a surprise that FFG Staff get preferred treatment on the FFG Forums ?

I wasn't even saying that they should get preferential treatment. I was merely suggesting that, as one of the writers for FFG, and also one of the more polite/reasonable people on this forum, the chances of N0-1 bothering to to the level of trolling someone is slim.

Given I've spoken to him a fair bit during the course of my playtesting, and his writing, I generally know that if his only retort was to troll, he'd probably not bother posting in the first place. He's got better things to do.

Plus, why would an FFG writer troll? They know that what they write is canon, because Games Workshop says it is, so no one can really argue otherwise, because they would be wrong. That's all that N0-1 was doing, informing someone who was wrong from a position of greater knowledge (he writes for FFG, and therefore would know if their work was canon or not).

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MILLANDSON said:

Bilateralrope said:

ak-73 said:

MILLANDSON said:

No offence, but if you think N0-1 is trolling you, you obviously have never met an actual internet troll. Also, given that the Deathwatch RPG is just as canon as anything else officially published about the 40k setting, your comment of " the FACT is that only things written and published by Gamesworkshop themselves could ever be considered canon " is erroneous, because you have stated it as fact when it is entirely incorrect.

It's also probably best not to go around throwing accusations of trolling at people who aren't doing it, especially when the person you are accusing of trolling is one of the writers for the 40k RPG lines.

Wait... the latter get preferred treatment in here?

Alex

Why is it a surprise that FFG Staff get preferred treatment on the FFG Forums ?

I wasn't even saying that they should get preferential treatment. I was merely suggesting that, as one of the writers for FFG, and also one of the more polite/reasonable people on this forum, the chances of N0-1 bothering to to the level of trolling someone is slim.

Given I've spoken to him a fair bit during the course of my playtesting, and his writing, I generally know that if his only retort was to troll, he'd probably not bother posting in the first place. He's got better things to do.

Plus, why would an FFG writer troll? They know that what they write is canon, because Games Workshop says it is, so no one can really argue otherwise, because they would be wrong. That's all that N0-1 was doing, informing someone who was wrong from a position of greater knowledge (he writes for FFG, and therefore would know if their work was canon or not).

I am aware of all that.

Alex

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MILLANDSON said:

Plus, why would an FFG writer troll? They know that what they write is canon, because Games Workshop says it is, so no one can really argue otherwise, because they would be wrong. That's all that N0-1 was doing, informing someone who was wrong from a position of greater knowledge (he writes for FFG, and therefore would know if their work was canon or not).

1) He is not a FFG Writer he freelances which anyone can do.

2) He doesnt have greater knowledge I have been in the 40k hobby for over 20 years now and ive read and played everything so I think my 40k knowledge is as good as anyone.

3) Its still true only games workshop or BL which is a subsidary of games workshop IE still part of games workshop can write offfical canon because even tho they have approved everyting that FFG puts out, the moment something written by games workshop contradicts something written by FFG then the games workshop stuff is right so my point still is only they can write true canon for there own univerese. To me anything written outside of GW is good and entertaining but is not true canon.

4) Why would a freelance writer troll because they are human like everyone else!!!