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Films

Steel Dawn. Just watching it now and it seems very Dark Heresy.

Kage

Here, I rather enjoy buying stuff from Games Workshop. Would you kindly refrain from gleefully wishing for their demise.

Dezmond said:

I don't wish them any ill, but I have to admit that i'm completely at a loss when it comes to understanding their business strategy. Look at the Dark Heresy line - first print run sells out inside of a day and they nearly cancel it completely. And the stated reason? 'failed to meet expectations'. Wizards of the Coast would KILL to have a fan base/sales figures like the DH authors.

*sigh*

So no, I don't think anyone hates GW. Most people are just completely and totally confused by the way they run their business. it seems to make no sense whatsoever. Or at least that's the catagory I fall into anyway.

Hm. I tolds them they shoulda done space marines.

I too would value a hint regarding the film ([email protected] , why doesn't this board have a PM function?).

As for inspiration...

Movies/Shows:

Event Horizon (so far one of the few horror films that truly spooked me)

Dawn of the Dead (Fydae Strain anyone?)

Supernatural

Battlestar Galactica

Dr. House (perfect for a grumpy Inquisitor)

Books:

Anything written by Clive Barker (that man has a sick imagination, perfect for tormenting Acolytes)

Same goes for Lovecraft

Games:

Call of Cthulhu

KULT

Damnatus does play out pretty much how you'd expect a game of DH to go - a group of people get seconded by the Inquisiion to investigate something, find out they haven't been told the whole story, everyone dies and the planet gets bombed to hell.

OK, perhaps not the last two..

Kage2020 said:

Beware the inhuman wrath of DocIII !!!!

Personally I can't stand Osteoarchaeologist or any other creepy bone 'researchers'

Peacekeeper_b said:

If anyone gets any intel regarding this I'd be happy too for any hints. You know the old forums seem to be functiong, and PMs are function tehre as well...

Charax said:

Well in my games, especially the last two.

Darkstar is always a good lark, even though its not very dark heresy. The idea of meglomanic earth authorities sending a little ship around the universe to blow up unstable planets that might hinder its colonial expansion is quite dark and warhammery though!

Edmund Cooper books are cool, and pretty much always have a dark ending, as well as Heinlein books.

Brazil is a quality film with much in the way of dark heresy material. Its got hives, arbitrators, torturers in business suits, secret organisations, and two old ladies with more augmentic implants than you can shake a stick at. Okay, its a bit dated but i still love it.

Most of my inspirational sources have already been mentioned except for the following writers; Jack Vance, Jeff Somers, Vernor Vinge, J.G. Ballard, Greg Bear, Samuel Delany, William Gibson, Pat Cadiganh ell...anything cyberpunk will do for a great Hive-inspired adventure but Jeff Somer's Electric Church is certainly one not to miss.

Charax said:

Why not, after reading Anahilation Squad and Hereticus, I feel novel little bit incomplete, when vast majority of characters wouldn´t perish in some nasty way. Most of examples I want to write were already given (oh, by the way nice that somebody remember Doctor Gregory "One sick Bastard" House,) ), I just add one author from my country (Slovakia), Juraj Cervenak, with his slavic themed serie "Warlock" (taking place at the start of 8th century in the Middle-Europe). It is cross-breed between historical and fantasy novel, but it feature all what I love on Warhammer 40 000 universe: darkness, supernatural powers manipulating the mortals, sheer brutality and macabre humour. As far as I know he´s not well-known in angloamerican parts of the world, but his short story Out of Sacred Water could be find in september-october issue of Weird Tales magazine. If you are looking for some inspiration on **** brutal medieval-world, or only if you want to read about some other mythologies than celtic, greek or nordic I could only recommend it.

Chill might also have some interesting horror themed plotlines.

Nephilim - Might be usefull for magical incantations and perhaps warp entities.

movies :

The hills have eyes

Renaissance

Equilibrium

Doomsday ( I guess ?)

Terminator Salvation trailers also look promisingly dark (if rid of the idea there´s no Arnie in it...), Necrons/Abominable Inteligence anyone?

"Hints" have been provided with regards to Damnatus. For those wishing to receive such email me at [email protected] so we don't clog up this thread with requests.

As for the original subject, I'm sure it's been mentioned already but Event Horizon is a wonderful idea of what happens to a ship that has a gellar field failure during warp transit.

Wu Ming said:

You wouldn't like me too much either then...

Metalstorm : The Destruction of Jared-Syn?

At least I didn't say Cherry 2000...ack I said it.

I just watched the first hour of the Mutant Chronicles movie I must say, why the hell is there not 40K film?

MC the Movie is more or less an imperial world wracked in a four way civil war (not treason of heretical rebellion, just four familes/nations/guilds/Corporations going at it) and in the midst of their war they awake an ancient evil that creates (more or less) daemonic zombies (Necromuntants in MC, perhaps The Risen or Fydae Strain in DH) and a special team of operatives is created by the Brotherhood (Inquisition/Ecclessiarchy) to take care if the big bad's mutant making machine.

It features (more or lesss), 3 or 4 guardsmen, what I call 2 assassins, a cleric, a sister of battle (more or less) and others as the main Doom Troopers (Acolytes).

The effects are not that great overall, but are not super horrible, they are passable for a low budget tv show or direct to DVD movie (the America Release of this film is being held off for reshoots, reedits and updated effects, so yay) and if you squint hard enough you can see it as being a Game of Inquisition or Dark Heresy.

I like how it started out as a huge battle, especially since both games (40K and MC) started off as battlefield miniature games and then evolved into various role play related games and then teal RPGs.

Stars Thomas Jane, John Malkovich, Ron Perlman, Devon Aoki, and other "character actors" of various skill and talent.

Just watching the film as is I am inclined to import it into my Adobe Premiere and reedit some of the scenes into better order and make recut some of the action, which at times looks rough and directionless.

Overall, if this version is only a "rough cut" as I am lead to beleive (but do we trust Wikipedia?) I am highly looking forward to a final cut.

You're probly watching the european release, the films is over a year old now, I think. I saw it and from what I remember it wasn't all that bad. As regards 'directionless action scenes' that seems to be a trend even in big hollywood releases eithier that or super slow look at evey punch, spit, bullet, drop of blood fly type of 'action'. I'm wondering what they might change.

The only quilble I had with the film is its seemed very short, at least once the group was assembled and the members began to drop like flys, I would haev liked a bit more time to get to know the characters, at least to feel some type 'Ah that guy/gal was cool/noble/something' before they were killed off. But still I liked it. And I agree it was for 40K, which is basically what I told my wife when I was viewing it, to explain the film, I was just like 'It's a "Warhammer 40K" (with air quotes) movie'

+++++everyone dies and the planet gets bombed to hell.+++++

Do they still do that kind of story? Certainly I'd have said really old school GW stuff had that kind of horror movie feel whereby the characters die one by one until there is one left, and they finally defeat the bad guy and you think they are safe but as they are driving off the camera pulls back to reveal that the bad guy is standing on top of the car so it isn't over after all!!!!!!!

But Dan Abbnett certainly leaves his heros no worse off than at the end of an indiana jones movie.

I tend to read the Marine novels, so I'm not sure if the guard ones still work like they used to.

Slike, I notice that no one ever gets shot in the art any more. For instance, on the cover of WFRP 1 there was

The moment captures a dwarf hitting a goblin in the neck and a sword actually sticking through an ogre.

WFRP 2 has

Weapons brandished, but not actually inflicting wounds or severing heads. I think it must be a GW directive, cause the art used to be full of swords slashing though people and blood spraying or caturing a Marine in the act of his head exploding when hit by a lascannon.

Not, you understand, that I miss this stuff. Abbnett is by far the best thing to happen to 40k for a long time, and I only notice the no flying severed heads thing after about fifteen years of them doing it so I can't say I miss it. Sjust interesting, is all.

Peacekeeper_b said:

Maybe, fingers crossed. One was announced in August this year.

www.purplepawn.com/2008/08/warhammer-40k-the-movie/

Dezmond said:

Oh boy, have you got a rose-tinted photo-visor on...

Dan Abnett has, as far as I'm aware, been slowly slaughtering his way through the cast of the Gaunts Ghost series... meanwhile, characters in the Eisenhorn and Ravenor series' have ended up less-than-intact (Eisenhorn is tortured, his face partially paralysed in the first book, and he's crippled in the third one; Alizabeth Bequin is comatose, Nathun Inshabel and Godwyn Fischig both are used as hosts for Cherubael; Ravenor is all-but-immolated, Kara Swole gets cancer from a spacewalk with a faulty vac-suit, Zeph Mathuin died at the hands of a daemon, Carl Thonius gets dismembered and possessed by a Daemon, and dies as a result... and those are just the ones I can remember off the top of my head).

His heroes live almost as dangerous lives as those of Joss Whedon (who, as everyone knows, is entirely willing to slay beloved characters for story purposes, and sometimes just because).

Slike the difference between the old short story in Deathwing (where a guard unit (who we identify with) find out that command is abbandoning their area of the front and nuking the site from orbit, and they must fight their way out of the area before getting killed by their own side. After a harrowing trip the few survivors find make it to 'safty' just in time to discover command is now abandoning this new area and they must do it all again.

Or there is an early Dan Abbnett story in which at the end of a harrowing tyrannid invasion the guardsman (who we identify with) shoots himself to avoid being torn apart by nids.) and a more modern story which is going to be vastly less Nihilistic.

Eisenhorn (who is the character we identify with) hits bottom a third of the way in to his novels, while a more traditional GW story would have its viewpoint character hit bottom at the end of the story.

Eisenhorn was last seen flying away in to the sunset carried by his pet deamonhost if I remember rightly (in Thorn Wishes Talon or whatever it was called).

Wu Ming said:

LOL. Hey, we get the voyeuristic crowd! What would be better?

(Tongue firmly in cheek.)

Kage