Four Corners of the Realm

By Foreshadow, in Talisman

Talisman board has 4 corners, It now has two expansions: highland and dungeon. The other supplements are expansions of cards, rules and other things.

Do you envision the end Talisman game design as a board with 4 corner expansions OR do you need at least one good corner to put all the 'stuff' needed to play the game such as all the cards, thus at most we'll see one additional larger box expansion similar in size to highland or the dungeon.

Noticing that the next Radiant Pool expansion is much like the one with the ice queen and reaper but might contain some important additions do you think the next supplement should be a corner piece to the game and if so what should it be called (ie the highland and dungeon)

List ideas:

Wonder if FFG plans another such supplement within the next year or have they expanded enough on this game for a while? When does the Sacred Pool plan to be released?

Foreshadow said:

Talisman board has 4 corners, It now has two expansions: highland and dungeon. The other supplements are expansions of cards, rules and other things.

Do you envision the end Talisman game design as a board with 4 corner expansions OR do you need at least one good corner to put all the 'stuff' needed to play the game such as all the cards, thus at most we'll see one additional larger box expansion similar in size to highland or the dungeon.

Noticing that the next Radiant Pool expansion is much like the one with the ice queen and reaper but might contain some important additions do you think the next supplement should be a corner piece to the game and if so what should it be called (ie the highland and dungeon)

List ideas:

Wonder if FFG plans another such supplement within the next year or have they expanded enough on this game for a while? When does the Sacred Pool plan to be released?

There will be 4 corner board expansions, with the next expansion being a corner board expansion. City or Woodland realm possibly!

Ell.

I think the City is the most likely next big expansion. Some kind of forest expansion might show up, or maybe even a new village expansion, but I believe City is next.

I imagine FFG will continue to release supplements in the same pattern. Small add-on > Board add-on > Small add-on etc. until all four corners are done. Hopefully a dragon tower too like in 3rd ed. :-)

I wouldnt mind seeing reprint f all the old school stuff myself. Even Timescape.

We then might see Talisman Dungeon, Highland, City and if they keep the same pattern it could be Talisman Forest, then you get characters like Woodsman, Tracker (Spy) yet, it also makes a good chance to redo some characters like Ranger, Sprite, Elf as these characters are part of the Talisman Forest and might be able to start in it.

What characters from 2nd haven't made their way into the game?

I remember the oriental ones like Martial Artist, Samurai, Ninja. Perhaps the fourth supplement might be a small box call Talisman Journey representing your character choosing a Merchant Caravan to a Far Off Land, but perhaps this idea is better to have a full box with a corner piece. In fact you might call it Talisman "Far Off Lands" representing people from other places who travel to Talisman's Land so they can be from any culture or place.

A Talisman Island or Talisman Journey could utilize that above idea and add things like Pirate.

Yet, you can expand the dungeon with Talisman Underworld, a city in the Underdark.

Lots of possibilities.

Thank you for the responses. By the responses I get that we shall see 2 more box sets and at least 1 more, probably 2 more small expansion packs like the upcoming Sacred Pool (which might be one of those)

Here are some ideas for characters that are new that I might want to see:

Jester

Chaos Mage

the jester can add 1 or subtract 1 from any die due to luck. He is just lucky. He might have a Confusion ability instead of combat and can take the Jester as a follower that adds 1 to craft or strength.

The chaos mage can cast a spell and on a roll of 1 loses all spells in his hand but on a 5 keeps that spell to cast again, and a 6 allows to cast that spell but immediately redraw another. So the effect of the spells has a random factor for the casting ability itself.

Either one of these abilities could be done with another type of character similar to how the dark cultist saw the chaos warriors abiilty, which might have been done for balance.

more non-human types are nice. I know there is the Dark Elf, but how about a Tribal (like the zulu or witchdoctor), of course these can be added to the Far Off Lands supplement idea.

Gnome

He has illusion casting ability, perhaps an Invisibility ability to use on other players or monsters to Evade combat, and perhaps even collect treasure without fighting (but that is probably imbalanced but if done the gnome should have like Str 1 and Craft 4.

Elementalist instead of spells, you have 4 spell abilities and can cast them when you collect a spell card and cast it. You can then use a spell ability of your choice OR the spell's description. This is cool since you'll get spell in the game you don't really want and when you do you have an alternative effect, like Fireball or a water movement ability. Unlike another spell caster you start with 1 spell only and don't regenerate them, you need to find them but when you do you have all those choices.

Cant Wait for all 4 corners! This is still the group favorite along with Battlestar Galatica. When our group meets we try to rotate games to keep group fresh but Talisman and Battlestar are always voted in. I'm not sure I would agree that Timescape should be added to the mix...The City sounds very intriguing though. Perhaps a new formula rather that another Dungeon/Highland Candyland road? I think the Reaper expansion offered the freshest contribution to the game. Still love all though! Oh-am very dissapointed with the smaller minis though:(

I agree Battlestar Galactica is a cool game.

Amen to that. Timescape! :) :) :)

Timescape yuck. Just look at the expansion for Runebound which had an alien theme.

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Talisman without a Timescape!

Ell.

*[ADMIN - Removed an unintentionally vulgar acronym due to user requests]

I'm pretty sure you Timescape-naysayers will get your wish - it seems unlikely that it will resurface in this edition. I'll miss it, but it's probably for the best. If only FFG manages to remake the City expansion into something that really works, I'll be satisfied.

Lubricus said:

I'm pretty sure you Timescape-naysayers will get your wish - it seems unlikely that it will resurface in this edition. I'll miss it, but it's probably for the best. If only FFG manages to remake the City expansion into something that really works, I'll be satisfied.

I am not sure that if "the City" is published, it will be really new. If it is published, it is likely to be another clone of Dungeon/Highland (at least for the board).

Why?

Because it sounds quite strange that if you publish four region expansion, you publish two very similar ones and then you decide to market the "completely new idea" as the third. So, or FFG has peculiar marketing strategies, or the third will be another "clone" :)

Cynewulf said:

Lubricus said:

I'm pretty sure you Timescape-naysayers will get your wish - it seems unlikely that it will resurface in this edition. I'll miss it, but it's probably for the best. If only FFG manages to remake the City expansion into something that really works, I'll be satisfied.

I am not sure that if "the City" is published, it will be really new. If it is published, it is likely to be another clone of Dungeon/Highland (at least for the board).

Why?

Because it sounds quite strange that if you publish four region expansion, you publish two very similar ones and then you decide to market the "completely new idea" as the third. So, or FFG has peculiar marketing strategies, or the third will be another "clone" :)

You may be right, and that's OK, even though the City will be pretty strange as a straight path. But that's not my concern, really. I worry more about the less than ingenious way that Master-level character, Warrants and such were used in the previous editions. I hope FFG manages to avoid making the same mistakes when/if the City is released.

I'm currently using a modified 2nd edition City and 3rd edition Forest in my games. The City is definitely the most unpopular board and really only gets used for people to pop in to become the Sherrif or High Mage or occasionally the Doctors.

There are some good ideas but the board is a bit confusing for the more casual players and the City deck is generally fairly negative and there is no incentive for players to enter the City just to draw cards.

I've had to house rule that you must start your turn on the City space on the main board in order to enter the City board as otherwise it would be too easy to run to the Doctors from the main board. To make things less convoluted I've also ruled that you have to start your turn on the relevant space on the main board in order to access the expansion boards. Playing like this also has the advantage that you don't need to keep all the boards on the table at the same time in order to see your options of where to move to and our players just pick up the expansion boards when they declare they are moving to thme. I also have some reservations about letting players have too much freedom of choice in their movement, if there are 4 expansions the players can scoot off to mid move it will be too easy for them to avoid negative cards on the main board.

I have just bought some massive tables which can cope with the game and all the expansions but I think I might need a telescope to see what is going on on the boards furthest away.

I really hope that they do the city next as it is the board which has the potential to be a really clever expansion rather than just a linear one to draw cards on like the Dungeon or Highlands and presumably the Forest

Geoff

talismanamsilat said:

Timescape yuck. Just look at the expansion for Runebound which had an alien theme.

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Talisman without a Timescape!

Ell.

*[ADMIN - Removed an unintentionally vulgar acronym due to user requests]

Well, the good news is that you don't have to purchase it. Nobody is going to force you to buy it. However, I, and apparently many other people, hope that they do make Timescape at some point. I will purchase it, you will not and we will both enjoy our sets as we would like them to be.

I wouldn't mind some sort of Timescape, but not with Space Marines, Aliens and Time Travellers.

If it's a look at "future-Talisman", I would only like to see up to a steampunk time, but I think it would be better as a dimensional or alternate reality expansion.

I also think it would be more suited to a small expansion and be run without a board. That way other cards could be mixed in with it for the main board.

talismanisland said:

I wouldn't mind some sort of Timescape, but not with Space Marines, Aliens and Time Travellers.

If it's a look at "future-Talisman", I would only like to see up to a steampunk time, but I think it would be better as a dimensional or alternate reality expansion.

I also think it would be more suited to a small expansion and be run without a board. That way other cards could be mixed in with it for the main board.

I agree with most of what is written by Jon here. The only difference is I would like to refrain from going all the way to the steam age, the prehistoric time to the medieval setting of Talisman is a rich and wide enough range for a Timescape expansion to be truly amazing. Not to mention the chance to visit past great empire like the Greek, Roman, Egyptian... or the old seven wonders of the world, or an island filled with pirates or then again you kill a mammoth and trade it fur in the city ;).

Now it's only a few ideas and to do them justice I think it would need a bigger board than what we have seen from Highland and the Dungeon and I do think it would appeal to a lot of players and many current nay sayer out there.

Cheers

BTW never forget the Dragon Tower, Talisman need more dragons.....

If you do a modern / sci-fi character in such an expansion do a single Man Out of Time who is a traveler to the past like Ash from the Evil Dead Series or some lost American styled U.S. army Sergeant type who has a Pistol.

Yet, why was Timescape cool to those it was cool too. I didn't own it in 2nd edition, nor wanted it. I did own some of the minis for it that filled various purposes.

Was it the fact you could go to another world. If so it makes more sense to have a Talisman Planes expansion. Sacred Pool just came out and hints at more angel/demon good/evil, dark/light stuff and some more neutral stuff too.

So you have a Portal open up on the board. Players land on it and enter. Then they go to the Otherworld and it could be like the Time scape board but keep in mind it will be of the same shape as the Dungeon and Highland thus it has certain limits of space and how it could be designed though I could see it being different than the other two but keep that same shape as the other two. For example little circular places on that board players can go to but generally it would be a linear movement along the board.

The outer planes would fit well with the Talisman setting, as it could be fantasy and yet could be from the Old gods (ie pagan inspired) like King of the Gods (i.e. Zeus or Odin) but of course if you have some big monster to fight it should be a large Tiamat style Dragon King or Demon Lord

I think no reason to stop making more board expansion, even when all 4 corners are full. It depends how good Talisman is beeing sold (after all it is just about money like almost everything.

I haved Dungeon and City in Old Edition and I am planning to buy Highland or Dungeon now, so looking forward any news, because every addition is good (even with "new corner", or without )

I don't mind more boards after the four corners.If it's four at a time you choose which one at the start of the game.As for Timescape,like I said in another thread,it should be a game of it's own.A giant board with spaces representing planets and time travelling,alternate worlds.14 characters to start with and keeping the Talisman mechanic except maybe the way you move on the board.It could be a great game for both Timescape lovers and haters.

Sure, if the game does well on the market (it's our job gui%C3%B1o.gif) nothing is stopping FFG from publishing more "satelite" boards. Of course there won't be many maniacs like me who will insist on using ALL expansions at the same time but more diversity will allow anyone to tailor their game to personal tastes.

I always loved Timescape and, while I doubt it will be published, it could be possible to get a similar experience by changing it into Planescape. I wrote a little about it here.

Instead of planet hopping we would get reality hopping (keeping everything appropriately fantasy-like lengua.gif). Even the random movement mechanics is quite appropriate for inter-dimensional travel - the forces beyond your control are just tossing you between different worlds. It could be even tempting to try a cross-overs with other games but I, personally, would steer clear from those to preserve Talisman's unique feel.

And, YES! More dragons! Dragon Tower as a fifth expansion is a must. I will not accept any other alternative. I will cry and cry and cry. And I will hate FFG forever and ever... gui%C3%B1o.gif

PS. There already is a fan version of Timescape for Revised 4th Edition here and here.

Lets just hope it will hit Talisman Island soon gui%C3%B1o.gif

Felis said:

Lets just hope it will hit Talisman Island soon gui%C3%B1o.gif

I've just had a message from Azoic saying that the updated files will be on their way to me soon!

talismanisland said:

Felis said:

Lets just hope it will hit Talisman Island soon gui%C3%B1o.gif

I've just had a message from Azoic saying that the updated files will be on their way to me soon!

Oh NICE!

A city expansion would make sense, but sounds a little too predictable. Maybe something like an abandoned city, or even a castle / fortress type expansion. If it is a city, it would be nice to be able to buy powerful magic objects or something that players could spend money on. Gold gets slighty pointless once you get your character built up.