Is this problem solved?
Is the bonus that the Swordmasters gets the same that he would get for the weapon being Superior quality or are they separate bonuses and stack?
Is this problem solved?
Is the bonus that the Swordmasters gets the same that he would get for the weapon being Superior quality or are they separate bonuses and stack?
Why wouldn't they stack?
The superior quality in the description of the sword doesn't confer an additional bonus die. You would need a superior crafted version of the sword.
It's the same as the Hockland Rifle. It's still a magnificent rifle of expert craftsmanship when compared to other rifles. But it doesn't gain a bonus fortune die because of that. You would need a superior built version of the Hockland Rifle to get a bonus die.
Kryyst said:
The superior quality in the description of the sword doesn't confer an additional bonus die. You would need a superior crafted version of the sword.
It's the same as the Hockland Rifle. It's still a magnificent rifle of expert craftsmanship when compared to other rifles. But it doesn't gain a bonus fortune die because of that. You would need a superior built version of the Hockland Rifle to get a bonus die.
Would you be so kind to clarify this for me?
Unfortunatly english isn´t my native language and I don´t have the "Sword of Hoeth" card at hand at the moment
I don't have the card handy but from what I remember. It basically says they get a bonus die to roll when using the Sword of Hoeth. In the description of the sword it talks of it's superior craftsmanship. What you don't get is an additional bonus die due to that description - so you only get one bonus die. You could have a superior sword of Hoeth that would give you an additional bonus die as per the superior craftsmanship rules - so 2 bonus dice.
But I'm just going from memory as I don't have the card handy and I'll likely forget to look at the card again when I do
Maybe I'm still not getting it, it sounds like you are saying the superior craftsmanship of the weapon does not grant a superior craftsmanship bonus from the core rulebook. So only a superiorly superior crafted version of a sword of Hoeth can get the standard superior craftsmanship bonus?
This was a post I wrote to this question on a different thread deeper in the WFRP Rules Questions forum.
"Here's my take on the Great Sword. I do not believe stats are a typo. I am fine with them as they are because of the swords other bonuses. The sword is superior and thus grants a fortune point toward whatever effect a GM rules it to. It could be based on attacks, but one could easily say it is based on intimidation (because the weapon appears so deadly) or charm (because the craftsmanship is so inspiring). Also whenever a Sword Master wields the weapon a fortune point is added to its attacks. Lastly the sword also grants a bonus to critical damage, allowing the player to draw two cards and choosing the critical he wants to apply and then he still gets to add the other as regular damage. Of course this is all my opinion and I welcome any official ruling that could clarify the situation."
My reading of this is that the sword has two bonuses:
1st, due to it's superior quality, it gets an extra white dice.
2nd, it has it's special Crit rules (which, BTW, are clarified in the FAQ/Eratta)
This matches a number of items cards released in later expansions. ( The faith box set that was released at GenCon has one that also works this way)