Does anyone know when these two bad guys will start hitting stores?

It looks like the Silent Forge will be in two week from now (end of August or first days of September), I don't know the release date of March Of the Damned (maybe in October I think).

Silent Forge should not, actually, be 2-3 weeks from now or something's wrong - it's at the FFG warehouse and was there right before GenCon. I was told they didn't bring it to the Con to focus on March of the Damned instead of competing with it (didn't make much sense to me but that's what I was told).

So in light of that, it should be in stores this week or next (at the very latest, I would imagine).

March of the Damned, that one I don't know - the GenCon copies were (of course) advance copies so seeing it in early September sounds about right.

but it shows Silent forge as "On the Boat." Why would the upcoming page lie to us?

Because it is evil.

This looks very good, am interested to get it, glad to hear its just around the corner.

Any news folks ?

I want to see the third BP.

me too, i cant wait to unleash Descendant of Indraugnir. Finally some hitting power in my HE decks.

Harlock said:

That card would be nice to use...

... with one of the DE "slave from the grave" type of cards after discarding/milling it.

Cain_hu said:

haha exactly what I was thinking got a plan for a DE w/ some Undead - milling, discarding & control, sacrificing sellswords & walking sacrifice to slave pen, whip the slave or lash the prisoner & bringing them back w/ the Countess for 1 resource each turn should be a decent resource engine and may be able to use the DE Epic Spell easier... (unless I'm wrong & the Necromancy goes away once it leaves play...) some testing using proxies have given me the feeling it'll be lethal, even vs the stronger decks around now...

really hope we see a no-more-than 2-cost destruction-friendly unit that discards top card of opponent's deck when it leaves play, to necromancify him up

Necromancy goes away when the unit leaves play. We had this discussion in another thread - the relevant section is in the FAQ, where it talks about a unit going to the discard being counted as a new card.

Slave Pens is pretty good, although it does get demolished a whole lot in the current meta. Destro has the Pens, Har Ganeth and Contested Stronghold as targets for the overloaded support removal Order decks are playing. Pens tends to be #2 on the target order.

I think using Contested Stronghold, or any other development based support for Destruction is a safe way to be outresourced by any and all order deck. (since they are doing the same, but has much better tools to do it) That would be as a good idea as a HE rush deck.

Otherwise Bottomless Mine and Dark Abyss both could work in the DE deck mentioned... we will se. Abyss with "Looking for new Slaves" / Mortella seems fun.

I didnt intend for this thread to be full of spoilers of the packs guys Even the card names, besides what FFG shows us, i like to keep as a surprise.

I dont like reading the spoiler threads.

It's already available here at Spain.

My LGS is saying it's (MotD) on the shipping list for today. That is if the delivery man shows up before they close.

Here you have it badly translated:

SON OF GRUNGI
Warrior
4DD
2/4
Toughnes 1
This unit gains 2p while attacking or defending if your opponent controls more units than you in combat.

RECOVERING THE FALLEN (Tactic)
5DD
Action: Choose uno of your zones. Put into play in that zone all the units in your discard pile. Sacrifice those units at the end of the phase.

BLACK KNIGHTS OF MORR
Knight
4EE
2/3
Action: When this unit enters this zone, target unit cannot defend until the end of the turn.

TEMPLE TO VERENA
2EE
P
You can spend resource tokens on this card as if they were in your pool.
Action: At the beginning of your turn put upt to 2 resource tokens on this card.

SEAGUARD OF LOTHERN
Warrior - Elite
4HH
2/4
If you discard this card by an opponent's card effect, put it into play (you choose which zone).

DESCENDANT OF INDRAUGNIR
Dragon
6HHH
4/4
Action: When this unit attacks, deal 4 indirect damage to each opponent.

TIRANOC OUTPOST
2H
P
Building
Whenever you deal indirect damage, deal 1 aditional indirect damage.

MAGIC DISPELL
Spell
1HH
Action: Cancel a spell card just played.

GOBLIN MUSHROOM POTION
Goblin
1O
1/1
Forced: When this unit enters in play, target opponent may move it to any of your zones.

BOTIN GOBBO (¿gobbla loot?)
2OO
Action: Sacrifice one unit to destroy up to X target developments in a zone, X is the printed cost of sacrified unit.

ESL’IAN
3CC
1/3
Hero Cultist
Action: When this unit attacks, corrupt taget unit in the defending zone.

HELL EMBER
1CC
Action: Destroy target unit or support card in any burning zone.

DWARF SLAVES
Slave
2D
1/2
Action: When this unit enters in play, put the top card of your deck as a development in this zone.

BLACK GUARD CANDIDATE
Warrio Elite
4D
2/3
This unit gains P while any unit has 1 or more attached cards.

CLAR KAROND BANNER
1DDD
Attachment
Attach this card to target dark elf unit in your battlefield.
Action: When attached unit attacks, target unit in the defending zone loses P until the end of the turn.

IN SEARCH OF NEW SLAVES
2DD
Action: Choose a unit that has just entered an opponent's discard pile and put it into play in one of your zones corrupted.

BATTLE PILGRIMS
Bretonnian - Warrior.
2
1/2
Order only.
Action: Sacrifice this unit to destroy target corrupted unit.

BARBARIAN GIANT
Giant
5
3/5
Destruction only
Barbarian giant cannot attack or defend if there are no other attacking or defending units in his zone.

MUD
2
Action: Discard your hand, then draw as many cards.

BACK TO GLORY
0HH
Quest: Action: Discard X resource tokens on this card and put into play in any of your zones, one unit from your discard pile. X is unit's printed cost.

i love spoiler

lol

I think the translation of Temple to Verena isn't totally clear. If I understand the spannish version of the card correctly, you must take those two resources you put on the temple from your resource pool, so the function of the temple is saving your unspent resources, it's not like it had 3 power.

Yeah it may be confusing. Yeah, you put those resources from YOUR pool.

Still a great card, I think. Plenty of early game resources go unspent because you have a four point card or two points worth of cards. Why did empire get the sudden resource advantage? This temple and the gardens from March of the Damned? Awesome!

Periculum said:

My guess would be is that this is the designer's way of having Order combat the quickness of the aptly-named Skavenblight threat that was dominating at end of last cycle. Looks like they first gave Dwarves some new "agile" supports (as i call quick resource cards, Mining Tunnels & Ancestral Tomb) as they probably needed it the most. Then Empire w/ D-Burg Forge and now Temple of V. for their analogous agile supports (I consider Garden to be a 'stamina' - long haul - resource like City Gates, although could be agile sometimes.) Chaos REALLY needs both and i'm sure James knows that. So hopefully we see something similar for them soon. Maybe they wanted to get some Order out of the way first to prevent prolonging Skaven monopoly in tournaments...'

But the theory of actively preventing one race from being on top for too long goes out the window when you consider:

Recovering the Fallen + Dwarf Grudge deck = lol

Tiranoc Outpost + BT deck = SoWDTWSKS

(sip of water, double take, water spray, knee slap)

Artemus Maximus said:

Glad I wasn't the only one that caught that Artemus.

Toberk said:

facepalm is exactly what I did too

In fact thinking twice about that card, i found it hard to beleive. (no offense Tobogan! appreciate your translating!) went over to edge foros, and sure enough...as posted. if HE are the focus of this one, they certainly got some attention