I played a pretty standard bolt thrower deck at Worlds - ended up with 3 wins, 2 draws, and 0 losses in swiss. I lost in the first round of top 8 to Tim Lyons, the eventual world champion.

3x Contested Village
3x Warpstone Excavation
3x Innovation
3x Armoury
3x Treasure Vaults
3x Mining Tunnels
3x Ancestral Tomb
3x Master Rune of Spite
3x Master Rune of Valaya
3x Alliance (Dwarf and High Elf)
3x Repeater Bolt Thrower
3x High Elf's Disdain
3x Demolition
3x Order in Chaos
3x Gifts of Aenarion
2x Flames of Phoenix
2x Abandoned Mine
1x Dwarf Cannon Crew

Notes on the deck:
If I had to change anything, I would have just run 3 of everything and gone over 50 cards. I originally had 3 Abandoned Mines in the deck and right before I turned in my decklist, I decided to drop it to 2. The only extra card that my teammate had on him was a Dwarf Cannon Crew, so I just stuck that in to get to 50, hence the 1 random unit.

Look for my worlds tournament report on the forums soon.

I apologize to anyone who had to play against this dumb thing. Hopefully bolt thrower will be fixed soon.

Thanks for the decklist. As you undoubtedly know, it's pretty similar to ours except we have 3x Flames, because you definitely need it vs. Dwarves, less Disdains - but I think 0 is the wrong number myself - and no Armouries, instead we have HE/Empire alliances for extra HE symbols on the board. Also we have Long Winter right now, in that random card slot where you have the DCC.

As you say, hopefully the **** thing will be restricted/banned and we won't have to deal with this any more.

I guess at least the wider community is starting to see the problem that ddm and I have been wibbling about for months now.

Personally I dont know that this deck is so overpowered that it needs to be banned. However, it is very close to that (probably the best deck in the format) and it is not really very fun to play against. It is seems a little silly to me to have perhaps the best deck in a game that is based on WHFB have no units in it (appologies to your cannon crew Matt, I know he is a unit! Dont mean to discourage the little guy)

He's only technically a unit. Mostly he is a lottery ticket for Tomb or Tunnels.

mattkohls said:

Hold up. How did you make the final 8 with a 3 and 2 record if I had a 3-1-1 record and was told I just missed out??? Something's wrong there. WTF? I'm not totally up-to-speed on CCG tournament scoring these days but last I checked, a tie was worth more than a loss. Holy crap. Now I'm seriously annoyed.

You misread. He had no losses, 3-2-0 > 3-1-1. That's why.

Ah, whew!!! That had me really upset. Okay. Makes sense. There's no frame of reference for the way people list their records so it's hard to know whether 3-2-1 is 3 Wins, 2 losses and 1 tie or vice versa. Congrats to Matt either way.

I'm testing a pretty similar decklist and I'm happy you did good.

Grats, at first...

Then, I'd say that we played against violent rush decks which used to win in 2-3 turns and we just waited...Now, they're as strong as others.

I'm the first one to scream if there are some falws around, don't bother...But I'm totally against the "Ban it now!" tendence that shows up around here the day after a new strong deck comes out...

Grats again, man, and sorry for using your thread for my 2 cents!

DB.Cooper said:

Uh-huh. We've had the Thrower deck for months. It's just been getting better and better to the point where it beats rush reliably now. Note that back when the Deathmaster came out and Skaven were better than everything else, I was not saying any of them should be banned.

I do not think that the thrower is good for the game. The thrower games are not fun for anyone - all the thrower players from GenCon have been saying the same thing. It's not unbeatable, but it severely constrains the decks that can be played because simply put most archetypes have no chance at all. If you were reading the tournament reports from GenCon, you will notice that there were pretty much just 2 archetypes that did well (plus a random Empire deck).

darkdeal's suggestion to revisit the sideboarding issue would also fix the problem. I am guessing that pretty much noone is playing the Thrower in the Italian meta (where sideboards are allowed), just because rush and dwarves can hate you out in the sideboard.

Sorry, I wasn't meant to be "the wise" I was just tellin' my idea of the meta...

anyway, sideboarding is the ultimate solution, but, let me say that even if lots of italian players tested it, RBT is not that played because it's not popular, not for sideboarding..It wasn't that popoular from the beginning...

I think my meta was the first one (at least in Italy) started testing RBT based decks...There are a bunch of players who used to play it in the first league, but we definitely have different decks, it's just a differente way to play the game

But sideboarding is not the cause nor the consequence of the lack of RBT decks in our environment.

We used to test it a lot, that's true...I can say that "evil" BT deck is even more popoular around here...

Anyway, SIDEBOARDING is THE solution, IMHO.