I don't know about card printers, but book printers are often booked solid for months in advance. I can't remember exactly, but for my last book, it took the printers something like 4 or 5 months from the time they got the PDF until the books hit the warehouse. I assume something like that is in play here with the delay for reprints. It's not just the cards. They have to print boxes and get some wage slaves to package them.

JJHB83 said:

I'm not sure why this was so difficult. Here ya go buddy. Consume till you feel fulfillment.

http://www.ccgarmory.com/callofcthulhu.html#top

I'm going to throw my hat in and also request some new prints of the said decks.

The thing is though, one issue of mine is that I'm not very trust worthy of buying off some sites so digging for them via independent sites isn't on my list of things to do... despite probably being the best way.

P00n, thanks SO much for another unfulfilling link to a webstore with all of the old asylum packs LONG OUT OF STOCK.

I guess I shouldn't be sarcastic, but it is early in the morning, and I haven't had my diet coke.

Chick

If anyone is selling the any AP im down to buy just let me know the info. Poon that sight was crao they dont have the cards!

I went into one of the local game shops here in the OC last week. I wasn't there to buy anything. Just taking someone else there who was just getting into games. They had one item for the whole CoC lcg hanging on the shelf and it happen to be Mountains of Madness. Which I needed and couldn't find anywhere even online. Go figure! Only thing I'm missing is Spawn of the Sleeper. But I still hope they reprint all of them. I wouldn't mind getting another copy of all the packs. Plus as some of you have pointed out, it would help get more people in the game if early packs are available again.

In the rules book the big one that comes with the starter it says something about becoming a person in your area that helps to set up games around where you live but i cant find anything about it on here at all i know it is a little off topic but i think it may help me get cards and get more people playing so its kind of not at the same time ... So does anyone know what I am talking about or how to do it ?

Joshua James Harper Bell

JJHB83 said:

You might check out the Support section for the game under Organized play. In that section is where they have details for league play that you may be able to setup through your local game store.

JJHB, you'd be a great servitor. Go for it.

Thx homes I would try my best but I'm not sure why they make it so hard to do there is no place to go or no link or anything I have sent out some emails and am trying to get the ball rolling but you would think that it would be more orderly like you go here click here kinda thing.

I Have been buying all the cards that I can get my hands n what do you guys think is the best AP of all time and why ?

Joshua James Harper Bell

These packs are incredibly difficult to come by. I had/have a standing order with a gaming supplier for the asylum packs, including an order whereby as the reprints came out they would include them. I had an email this morning that they have given up on the reprints (after I think 6 months) and have refunded the money. Some of the posts here seem to imply that this is the players' fault for not getting involved quickly enough, not looking hard enough, etc. If the players are at fault it is for believing that FFG's well known ADD regarding games would allow them to run a so-called "Living Card Game" (CoC is, aptly, more of a Living Dead Card Game).

It's very difficult to put new players into competitive play with old ones due to mass unavailability of the cards. Just about everyone I know who has played the game and enjoyed it has either given up or is saying they are putting their involvement on hold - LCG's, as they've been put up by FFG, depend on supply and it just isn't there.

It is possible to have casual games, and for that matter competitive games, but it means dividing the community into those who have certain cards and those who don't, and we are into the bad old MtG days again, which this model was meant to supplant.

Reprints. That's all we really need. Otherwise the LCG will become a CCG again which is what I thought they were avoiding. Now the Sledge Dogs are essentially rare cards & anything else more than a year old.

It took me several months to get three copies of the Mountains of Madness Asylum Packs. I bought two of the sets up from eBay sellers & the stupid thing is, TWO TIMES when I won an auction through Buy It Now & paid for the item, the sellers later refunded my money because the item was out of stock. A strange business practice if you ask me. They really need to stop hiring shoggoths to do their order fulfillments.

You know, I bugged Nate last year (when he was still running things) about the 'sold out' status of some of the early ap packs. His reply was, "well, we want them to retain some value."

To which I replied. "Well, thats great and all, except this is the first championship for the lcg and people can't get all of the cards... its too soon to cut the plug on the the old ap packs."

Nate, I think was scared of me from that point on... only 2 years in, theres no reason for there to be ap packs out of print. its like FFG is actually turning down money...

Hopefully the are re-released soon for you guys. Hard to grow a game that people can't buy cards for.

Magnus Arcanis said:

"You know, I bugged Nate last year (when he was still running things) about the 'sold out' status of some of the early ap packs. His reply was, "well, we want them to retain some value."

[edit] stupid quote formattig got buggered.[/edit]

Trust me, I know first hand how well FFG employees deal with logical criticism. Some seem obligated to be offended and others seem genuinely insulted. I wont remark more on that publicly though.

Were you refering to the orginal 4 APs or just the early white bordered APs?

I am curious if they thought they were going to try to have a successful game over the long term with such limited quantities or if it was a matter of just changing their minds later on.

Speaking about FFG changing their minds, this issue came up on BGG recently and am curious what those of you who do not post there think about it:

www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/553358/question-about-the-lcg-format

Of course they're going to run out. They're of a Living Card Game. That's the idea. The cards may not be collectible as regards distribution, but cycles come and go. FFG can't keep all twenty packs always in print. Heck, everything except the likes of Huck Finn has gone out of print.

LCG cthulhu is now viewed in contrast to CCG, implying available to all. But in this way, LCG is not so new player friendly. Still, the LCG version is just past infancy. New players aren't in on the ground floor, but perhaps second floor. That said. Best of luck to all early AP collectors!

Looks like the value on older Asylum Packs are already going up .

Evil Jim said:

It is Free Postage though!

Hellfury said:

The early white boardered APs. I think it was the first two of the first cycle specifically.

johnny shoes said:

Dear Sir, I am hereby respectfully disagreeing with you, but just out of hope. Now, it's a fair argument to say that Fantasy Flight Games cannot re-print every cycle ad nauseam , but I believe this very question shall be the crux of the whole LCG format, and also a clear health-check on the Cthulhu game.

I say this because, unlike CCG (and I shall use Magic: The Gathering as a very unfair example), a player who designs a deck which possesses any of the older cards, doesn't have any other way of getting them but buying the asylum pack. There is no value nor market for individual cards, not only because the game is much much smaller - but because it'd make no sense. It's great to get all the cards, but, for that, everyone must have access to them. If I want to make a Magic deck with 4 ancestor's recall, heck I can go rob a bank and eventually buy them. What am I to do if I want to build something Cthulhu-wise?

If the cards ever come to be out of print permanently, we shall have players of 1st category (those who have access to the whole library of cards), and those unfortunate who arrived in mid-game, and have to suck it up. Now, every game has it's life cycle, but I'm willing to believe Cthulhu still has a long way to go. In Portugal, the Core decks have only now (last 3 months) appeared, and are becoming fairly well distributed, but there is NO SINGLE ASYLUM PACK to be found.

Your argument, is, unfortunately for me, an eye-opener. If FFG is not to re-print the older asylum packs (and I'm talking exclusively of the LCG format ones), this will mean that I have come far too late into this game. I shall have to bitterly sell my core set and my expansions, and maybe go into the Lord of the Rings... or just give up the whole LCG format out of fear. What's worse, is I don't think anyone will openly admit they are about to give up on a game...

Meehh I didn't mean for it to sound too overly melodramatic. I'm going to wait and see how it goes, instead of buying new asylum packs.

hey all. here is what i have found. It took me about a month of searching but now i have all the packs, and that is 3 of eack up until the newest block(no need for multiple)

this has been what i found to be effective. Amazon, ebay. I have seen every pack come and go there. But if you want a instant tip, ill throw it out. I have a friend in North dokota. He found a store that carries all the packs and have a bunch of them all. SO he is buying a tonn and putting them up on the BBG market place( that is board game geek if you dont know what that is). I would say they should be posted in a bit. Search him up and message him. he is the bomb

Evil Jim said:

he has a few posted for that price... are u kidding me? i thought i over paid 24 for mountains of madness pack

JesseOlivier said:

I sent a message to the seller indicating that they may have made an error regarding the asking price of the item because that particular pack is still in print & readily available. I even included a link to the FFG store. However, they have not written back to me or changed their price so I can only assume they're a greedy moron.

Evil Jim said:

I think thats it. Ive seen individuals try and sell sets of Star Trek CCG on ebay that were a free download.

Ephraim said:

jhaelen said:

haha. here here to that