A group of my friends and I play two days almost every week. There are four of us and we normally play melee. Several questions have come up and I will try to remember all of them. Here they are:

1. We would like clarification on Events and abilities that have "Challenges:" or "Marshaling:". The debate is, whether or not you can play those as a Response. Here is an example of what I am talking about; I am attacked by 1 character I have 1 standing with an Intrigue Icon and he does not, so before I declare defenders I Game of Cevase, which is a Challenges Event.

2. This one has to do with the previous question. If I can play Game of Cevase as a Response can my opponent "He calls it thinking" my Game of Cevase? This probably all will be solved with an explanation of Response.

3. When I nightmare Fat Robert (Double Renown Robert Baratheon) and he has a bodyguard on him, is the body guard discarded?

That is all I can think of right now. I know that we have priority issues but I can't think of any examples. Thank you all in advance!

-Disco

Disco said:

No. Response is defined by word " Response : ". (Discarding duplicate is also a response.)

Other effects like " Challenges :" or " Any Phase :" are actions. (Responses do not count as actions). You can play actions between declaring attackers and declaring defenders. I think it will be more clear for you if you see flowcharts in FAQ (page 18-19).

Disco said:

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Take a look at the flowcharts in the FAQ. Anytime you see "Player Action", you can use those phase-specific triggers, like "Challenges:" or "Marshalling:"

I am attacked by 1 character I have 1 standing with an Intrigue Icon and he does not, so before I declare defenders I Game of Cevase, which is a Challenges Event.

The card says: " Challenges : Each player must choose and kneel a character with an I icon he or she controls, if able. Then, the player who knelt the character with the highest STR may choose and return a character to its owner's hand."

Let's take the Challenges Phase apart, as according to the flowchart.

First, there's a Player Actions box ... so you can choose to use that card here. Let's say you're waiting to see if your opponent actually does a challenge, so you skip over this Player Actions box.

Next, your opponent gets to declare a challenge, the challenge type, and kneel his attacking characters.

Once your opponent has done that, there's another Player Actions box. And this is when you would be able to use that card. You would essentially put the challenge "on hold" and resolve the Event. (During which you'd probably return the single character who was attacking you).

After the event card is resolved, you continue following the flowchart ... but at this point, your opponent probably has no attackers in the challenge ... or, they might have an event card they want to play.

Take note: using that card is NOT a response. It is a Player Action, and there are certain points in the flowchart that allows you to use it.

2. This one has to do with the previous question. If I can play Game of Cevase as a Response can my opponent "He calls it thinking" my Game of Cevase? This probably all will be solved with an explanation of Response.

The card says: " Response : Cancel the effects of a response without an influence cost. Then, attach He Calls It Thinking to a HM character (counts as a Boon attachment with the text "Attached character gets +2 STR.")."

I've added the underline for emphasis. "A Game of Cyvasse" is not a response (All response would have that "Response:" trigger-word, or they would be classified as save responses or cancel responses.

Because ""A Game of Cyvasse" is NOT a response, it cannot be cancelled by "He Calls It Thinking"

Disco said:

As others have said, you really should take a look at the FAQ (in the "Support" section of the game's pages in the "Catalog" section of the website) to get a feel for the difference between standard actions (like "Challenges," "Marshalling" and "Any Phase") and Responses. Responses are always considered to be a part of another action instead of being actions in their own rights.

The other thing you can see in the FAQ is that while you cannot Respond to something like declaring attackers with a card that does not say "Response: after you declare attackers...," you will have a chance to use standard Challenge actions between declaring attackers and your opponent having the opportunity to declare defenders. So, in your example of "so before I declare defenders I play Game of Cyvasse, which is a Challenge Event," you cannot play the event as a Response to the attack being made. But you don't need to. Between the attack being made and the defense being declared, all players have the chance to play standard Challenge/Any Phase action - including Game of Cyvasse. You get another chance to play standard action between defenders being declared and determining the winner of the challenge, actually resolving it.

So no, you cannot play Game of Cyvasse as a Response, but for what you want to do, you really don't need to.

He Calls It Thinking can only cancel effects that start out "Response:...".