I'm just really surprised there isn't any talk about this guy. I saw him played with and I also played him in the MO regional. He is by far one of the best cards I've ever played with. Very challenge control oriented and very fun.

In the games I've used him in, he's been a total beast. A few pups, him, Grey Wind and Threat from the North makes for a bad day for anyone attacking you. Makes the Kingsguard title brutal.

Yeah I agree. I think he's one of those cards that slips underneath alot of people's radar, and the few people who do notice him find it more of a headache to build a competitive deck around him. I mean you can't just build a direwolf deck. it just isn't beefy enough. Not with all the wildlings running around. What I think IS a really good deck though is Tully/Direwolf. Especially with Edmure! It makes triggering Riverrun alot more feasible, and when you are able to reliably trigger it two or three turns in a row, you only need a few tullies actually out, so gives you room for the direwolves. Its still a hard deck to get right, but one that if built properly has a really good chance at winning worlds.

This card is a beast ! It gives to the house Stark a very efficient card to defend challenges without having characters in the challenge. I think about defending intrigues challenges for example, in a direwolf deck. It is very boring to be Lannister and not to be able to win an intrigue challenge as the attacker when facing a pure military direwolf deck because all your intrigue characters are suddenly 0 Str. And when you know the great capacity of the Lannis to remove attachements...

This attachement is a plea and some houses are very vulnerable in front of it. I just hope there will be some neutral attachement control to help those families...

Shaggy is brutal - I was soooo clsoe agianst twn2dn Round 1 at the NE regional but shaggy + At Night they Howl slowed me up the one turn I had the opening for the win. Then i got locked down and annhilated. He is an amazing card and Twn2dn took the regional with this build. Stark has a couple of good builds - and i am convinced the direwolf one is one of the better ones.

Weapons at the Door anyone? How long do we have to wait?

There is a rumor about a new neutral (and raven) event that remove an attachement from play. Can't wait for it !

What does "and raven" mean?

I imagine he's saying it will have the raven trait so that it is able to remove black/white raven's as well as other attachments.

I'd like to see that. Carrion Bird does the job pretty well, but it would be nice to see variety in terms of ways of dealing with seasons without having to commit to playing a season yourself. So something that can deal with seasons but is not dead against a deck not running seasons (the way By the Light of the Sun is dead against non-Shadows decks) would be cool.

I made a dire wolf deck just for fun and i run the siege of winterfell agenda and its awesome shaggy dog is sweet.

Too sweet IMO... When Shaggy dog is on the board, the direwolf deck hasn't trouble with the lack of intrigue and power icons that normally counterbalance a "Siege of Winterfell" deck. So an usuable event against him could be a good thing !

(and yes, the event will have the raven trait)

Shaggy is totally one of my new favorite cards. So much potential. I've got a Direwolf deck, and if you get to go second, you can basically win any challenge you want on defense with a few scrubs (I'm fond of Jojen Reed and Jeyne Westerling), and a pack of direwolves...

jmccarthy said:

What's good with him?

defend with him use the direwolves to reduce attacker to 0

Also Jojen can be used to discard 3 of your opponents cards per turn. Great Mil (or Raid) effect

Rogue30 said:

Rogue30 said:

Just a nice scrub for Stark. 1 cost, intrigue, power, Lord. Works with Red Wedding, can defend your non-military challenges to prevent unopposed.

jmccarthy said:

So, because of cost 1 then? There are better characters with intrigue and power icons. I avoid 1 STR characters because of Threat from the north.

Do you avoid 2 Str characters because of Ilyn Payne, Flame-kissed, Dragon skull and venomous blade ?

Jojen is a very good weenie in my opinion. His traits are ok, his icons are very good in Stark and his cost make hime very cheap for all this... He's not a game-breaker but it is a solid weenie.

Arthur Lannister said:

There's a big difference. With all of those 2STR character control cards, your opponent needs to pull them out of the draw deck and have the resources to play them. With Threat from the North for 1STR character control, all your opponent has to do is choose to flip the plot at the start of the plot phase. The better comparison would be "Would you avoid 2STR characters if the plot First Snows of WInter was reprinted?" And history tells us, "yes, a lot of people would."

That said, I agree. Jojen is a solid weenie for Stark and avoiding 1STR characters "wholesale" simply because of the possibility of Threat is not something I do.

Arthur Lannister said:

That depends on the deck, but generaly yes, because of Venomous Blade. Unless they have stealth or zero cost of course

I asked about Jojen, because his ability is useless and maybe I missed some combo.

I hope you don't play Lanni or Martell

Rogue30 said:

i dunno....one influence to mill three cards is the best mill card in the game and if they herald or have stalwart you could net a power.

Back in the day, I use to have some fun combo decks using Jojen.

Rogue30 said:

Jojen's ability is not useless. If nothing else, he discards 3 cards off the top of an opponent's deck every turn. That's considered a good thing on a lot of Greyjoy cards.

The timing of it can make it difficult, but he can gain some power. He's proof against the Heralds, for one thing. All those combos people were talking about with Val that let them know what the top card of their deck will be before using her? He disrupts those (not only is the card discarded, but you probably knew what it was and got power off of it). There's also the fact that you can always choose to discard from the top of your own deck. There are ways to use Stalwart to know what is on the top of your own deck. Turn that into power with Jojen.

ktom said:

Yeah, but we are talking about Direwolfs deck.

ktom said:

I forgot about Val - this has convinced me.