I know it is early and we are just getting to sink our teeth into playing Astartes... but- Do you think they will ever make it so we could play a Grey Knight squad? Obviously in a Daemon Hunters game/setting...

Hivemind said:

I don't see why there would be a problem playing any Chapter of Marines. After all, we're given to understand that FFG will be releasing "Chapter creation" rules, so with some judicious spicing up of the rules playing a squad of Grey Knights shouldn't really make you pause. The only problem would be if you suffer from the typical power creep that you see in the wargame rules/background...

Kage

I doubt you are ever going to see anything official for the Grey Knights (especially when the game is called Deathwatch. If it was going to have Grey Knights and stuff too, it'd probably have been called "Space Marine"), but that doesn't stop you making up rules for it. I imagine that someone will do that sooner or later.

I'm sure with a sufficient grasp of the rules, a decent knowledge of the Grey Knights and the 40k RPG rulebooks you could easily cheese a custom Grey Knights game/campaign.

The rules are more like guidelines, anyway.

It's possible, in the same style as Ascension (a different way of playing Deathwatch). But GK's are not Deathwatch Marines, GK's never fight as part of the Deathwatch and they are two separate Chambers Militant of two different Inquisitorial Ordos. It'd be like trying to have a Deathwatch Sister of Battle, or a Sister of Battle Grey Knight. Doesn't quite work.

Given the style of all 40K RPG rules (ie. they work on extrapolation rather than comparison), once the ' Create'a'Chapter ' rules appear, extrapolating them out to allow for Grey Knights shouldn't be all that difficult.

BYE

Deathwatch kill Xenos and work for Ordo Xenos.

Grey Knights kill Daemons and work ostensibly for Ordo Malleus.

With DH we have Ordo Heritcus dealt with, so one could summise for a true rounding of the 3 Ordos we would see Grey Knights at some point in the future.

However I suspect highly we will see Terminator rules prior to the introduction of Grey Knights.

Grey Knights are to be in a supplement for DH, maybe not PC worthy but probably enough info to turn it into DW

I think allowing GKs as PC's would be interesting, especially if you can run it as a group of GK PC's. A very different style of Dark Heresy, that's for sure. And besides, the Only War and Arbite book will probably give expanded rules for playing different types of Guardsmen/Arbites, allowing for campaigns based around those than Inquisitorial investigations.

And that's a great idea.

Now we have to hope that the next one after all this is an Adeptus Mechanicus book with rules for Skitarii, variant Tech-Priest rules and, hell, even Servitor Careers.

BYE

what will be great for DW, if the admech book gives rules for Tech Marines as well

Deathwatch has Tech-Marines in it already.

BYE

I think that AdMech rules and info is more likely to be a DH supplement. They just announced books for Imperial Law, Ecclisiachy and Guard. I'd guess that 2012 will see an AdMech book and probably a Adeptus Psykana book as well with new fluff for astropaths, navigators etc.

If FFG follows the pattern they've set so far the the first new DW books we'll see are an adventure book with 3 scenarios, Player and GM guide books (a la Inquisitors Handbook and Disciples) and a 3 part campaign. After that DW releases will most likely be playable chapter sourcebooks with new chapter specific rules/gear like the differences between a Librarian and a Rune Priest.

Wargamer said:

Remember that "Knowledge is Power" just covers Dark Heresy, and anything covering Astropaths and Navigators would be in a Rogue Trader supplement (and since the RT 2010-2011 product list hasn't been posted, you'll have to wait and see what those supplements are).

Are you implying that there's more preview goodness to come, this time for RT?

BYE

The SoB dont like psykers very much.

MILLANDSON said:

Fornow perhaps, but who says future DH books wont have more on Navigators and Astropaths for that subsection of the game setting., Afterall, there was a Navigator and a astropath in the last part of the Haarlock Legacy.

H.B.M.C. said:

I'm implying there is stuff coming up for RT, but I'm not involved with their marketing department, so I wouldn't know if a product line-up for RT in the same style as "Knowledge is Power" is coming out or not, though I'd hope there is (as it would mean I'd have to be less worrisome about mentioning any of the stuff coming up for RT ).

*looks at main page*

You're a bad liar MILLANDSON.



BYE

I had as little knowledge over whether they'd release a product list for Rogue Trader as anyone else here. If I knew they'd release one, I would have either said they'd release one, or not comment on it. That's why I said what I said.

If I say I had no idea, I had no idea, and I'd prefer you not to insult me in future with insinuations to the contrary, if it's all the same to you.

I have a random image of Earthdawn 's Blood Elves.

Seriously tongue-in-cheek there. On the other hand, I think that it doesn't take too much imagination to see where the idea that the "playtesters' are in the know" comes from. Either way, no worries on my behalf.

Kage

MILLANDSON said:

The internet is a place where the tone of one's post is very hard to determine. To help avoid situations where a person might be misread a series of pictures were invented to help convey the subtext that, while easy to understand when spoken, is harder to pick up in text. These pictures are most commonly referred to as 'Emoticons', as they allow a person to 'emote' via text and pictures.

For example, when someone puts a ' ' or a ' ' at the end of their post, it usually indicates a light-hearted, jokey or even sarcastic stance, as opposed to a ' ' or ' ', which might convey a more accusatory stance or negative stance.

The question you have to ask yourself now is which emoticon did I use in my post, and which one you should reply with?

May I make a suggestion:

BYE

H.B.M.C. said:

Touché

Just in case you missed it, "Profit and Plunder" was just released with some really interesting stuff on the horizon for RT.

Well, whether or not it was intended like that, I can generally be taken as not lying when answering questions involving the gamelines I'm privy to. Whilst I do know about the products I've tested, and the products I've been asked to test in the future, I am not privy to FFG's marketing strategies. I'm never told about Designer Diaries before they are released, so I only see them, and their contents (unless their contents is an adventure/demo I've playtested, like in the case of Final Sanction (I didn't test the second demo)), when you do.

I might be privy to some things, but not to all. If you run on that assumption, and not one whereby I know everything and anything FFG are doing for the 40k RPG line, you'll probably understand what I mean when I say "I don't know if they'll release a product-line preview for RT, but I'd be surprised if they didn't" a bit more clearly, as the speculation it is.