Hi!

I'm mastering "Illumination" as my first DH adventure. One of my players chose to be an assassin armed with a Great Sword provided with Mono upgrade.

Plus this guy is a Moritat (Inquisitor background package), and lately he took the "Swift Attack" Talent and the "Furious Assault" one.

I think that the Moritat "The Bloody Edge" can be used with that weapon to roll 2 + 2 dice choosing the highest value in every in pair (because he treats all swords as Tearing), no problem here.

My question instead is about the two talents above:

They should not be two different actions (the first says Full Action move, but the All Out Attack is still a Full Action move). If they are cumulative can the "Furious assault" bonus be used with both the "swift attack" attacks?

Sorry for my english.

Yumarr said:

They can't be used both during the same round.

Furious Assault can only be used making an all out attack* (WS +20, no pary, no dodge).

Whereas Swift Attack can only be used with the multiple attacks action*.

This 2 actions are both complete actions and, so, not cumulative.

* Sorry, I can't remember the exact english name.

Plus this guy is a Moritat (Inquisitor background package), and lately he took the "Swift Attack" Talent and the "Furious Assault" one.

I think that the Moritat "The Bloody Edge" can be used with that weapon to roll 2 + 2 dice choosing the highest value in every in pair (because he treats all swords as Tearing), no problem here.

It works a little differently - however many damage dice you get from your weapon, with Tearing you roll one extra die and discard one. For a Great Weapon, you'd thus roll three dice of which you keep any two.

My question instead is about the two talents above:

They should not be two different actions (the first says Full Action move, but the All Out Attack is still a Full Action move). If they are cumulative can the "Furious assault" bonus be used with both the "swift attack" attacks?

No. Swift Attack and All Out Attack are mutually exclusive - All Out is not a modifier for other attacks, but an attack in its own right.

Thanks all for the answers!!

My friend will not be pleased! :-D

You do have one other minor problem.

Yumarr said:

Actually, it would only be 2 + 1 dice rolled. Tearing provides one extra die not one for each die rolled. From the errata:

• Tearing weapons are vicious devices, often using multitudes of
  fast-moving jagged teeth or fragmented or explosive ammunition
  to rip into flesh and bone. These weapons roll one extra die
  for damage, and the lowest result is discarded.