Treaty w/ anybody

By Rozy, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

Hi, I have a queston about the Treaty agendas. My friend told me that there was some ruling about them from Nate alowing players to play the House X only cards from the House they have Treaty with. Is this correct? I Could not find this anywhere here.

Maybe he's confusing the Treaty agenda with City of Shadows?

If Nate ruled that, it hasn't been published anywhere. It is also incorrect and inconsistent with the way Treaty-like Agendas have always worked in the game.

Now, in the DRAFT format from the old CCG, if you decided to put out two House cards (a sort of "do it yourself" Treaty), you could use "House X only" cards from either House, but that was only true for that one, limited, specialized format. It has never been true in the regular constructed format.

ktom said:

If Nate ruled that, it hasn't been published anywhere. It is also incorrect and inconsistent with the way Treaty-like Agendas have always worked in the game.

Now, in the DRAFT format from the old CCG, if you decided to put out two House cards (a sort of "do it yourself" Treaty), you could use "House X only" cards from either House, but that was only true for that one, limited, specialized format. It has never been true in the regular constructed format.

I haven't heard of this "do it yourself" treaty. Maybe that was a just a "friendly game" rule somewhere?

The Agenda (since I'm a Valyrian fan) reads:

Treaty
[Neutral Agenda]

You need 5 additional power to win the game. When you announce Treaty as your Agenda, announce a House. Ignore the out-of-House gold penalty to play characters, locations and attachments from the announced House.

So it only allows you to ignore the out-of-House gold penalty. The player still has to pick a House, and he still has to abide by the "X House Only" restrictions. (I'm basically agreeing with ktom)

Now ... there is a plot card that also takes away that out-of-House gold penalty (and again, you still have to abide by other restrictions)

From the Booster Draft pack ...

Alliance (Plot)

You may play cards from other houses without paying a gold penalty.

(4 gold, 3 initiative, 1 claim)

You're friend probably "heard" it from an old (1-2 years?) FFG article where Nate claims that upcoming treaties with allow you to play House X only cards from the House you have a treaty with. My guess, is that in play testing this didn't turn out to be such a great idea. Imagine running Martell Event/Shadow cards in any other House!

Stormtower said:

I haven't heard of this "do it yourself" treaty. Maybe that was a just a "friendly game" rule somewhere?

No. There was an official rule in the CCG-Draft format that allowed you to build a deck and play with 2 House cards instead of 1 after drafting. You paid no OOH gold penalties on either House and could play "House X only" from both Houses, but you needed 20 to win and could not play an Agenda if you happened to draft one. You could essentially build a "Treaty-like" deck from any 2 Houses you drafted without an Agenda.

FATMOUSE said:

You're friend probably "heard" it from an old (1-2 years?) FFG article where Nate claims that upcoming treaties with allow you to play House X only cards from the House you have a treaty with. My guess, is that in play testing this didn't turn out to be such a great idea. Imagine running Martell Event/Shadow cards in any other House!

Exactly thats why I was worried.

ktom said:

Stormtower said:

I haven't heard of this "do it yourself" treaty. Maybe that was a just a "friendly game" rule somewhere?

No. There was an official rule in the CCG-Draft format that allowed you to build a deck and play with 2 House cards instead of 1 after drafting. You paid no OOH gold penalties on either House and could play "House X only" from both Houses, but you needed 20 to win and could not play an Agenda if you happened to draft one. You could essentially build a "Treaty-like" deck from any 2 Houses you drafted without an Agenda.

That's pretty cool. It's good to know that is a viable format.