Secret Garden Level (RtL/ToI/SoB)

By Dlanaan, in Descent: Journeys in the Dark

A question was asked by one of my players that I wasn't absolutely certain on in the Secret Garden level. The trees have the effect of inflicting 2 wounds and ending a player's turn upon entering the space. The question asked was: Can I have one hero enter the space and then have a second cross through the space and move past the first hero. Since you can't end the turn on the same space, it makes sense that the tree's effect doesn't work.

My initial answer was no. You can't put yourself in a position where you would end your turn in a space occupied by another character so you can't make that move. But I wanted to make sure my reasoning was sound or if this was an interesting loophole to this otherwise pain in the rear dungeon level.

Thoughts?

Thanks.

Dlanaan said:

A question was asked by one of my players that I wasn't absolutely certain on in the Secret Garden level. The trees have the effect of inflicting 2 wounds and ending a player's turn upon entering the space. The question asked was: Can I have one hero enter the space and then have a second cross through the space and move past the first hero. Since you can't end the turn on the same space, it makes sense that the tree's effect doesn't work.

My initial answer was no. You can't put yourself in a position where you would end your turn in a space occupied by another character so you can't make that move. But I wanted to make sure my reasoning was sound or if this was an interesting loophole to this otherwise pain in the rear dungeon level.

Thoughts?

I suppose one could make an argument for letting the second hero pass through the space using Grapple as an example, but personally I would be inclined to say the Grapple rule is specific to that ability. There is a more general rule for what happens if a figure is forced to end his turn in an illegal position, and that is that the OL gets to decide which of the nearest legal spaces the figure gets moved to (his turn still ends.) Although you could also take the tack you mentioned - namely that you can't voluntarily end in an illegal position (the "OL moves him" rule is primarily cited in situations where the figure is unexpectedly forced to end his turn, after all.)

I would agree that the second hero should not be able to "cheat" his way through the tree-line like this. Whether he's forced to stop moving before he enters this space or whether he goes in and the OL picks a space to leave him (presumably on the same side of the treeline as he was on) is a matter of for further analysis. I don't recall seeing the Grapple rule of "he can move through because only one figure can be stuck per space" being used for anything other than Grapple itself, though.