I noticed something interesting reguarding the Adepts listing in the DHCB.....on page 48 under Loremaster heading the option to take Psy Rating 1 and minor psy power ( up to 3 times ) then on pg 49 under Magister it offers the Psy Rating 2 AND 3 on the same table as well as minor psy power ( again up to 3 times at that rank)...Ive already checked the errata file for corrections to the inconsistencies here...there were none.

My question is this simply put.....HOW? you will loose your class and have to be stuck on the Blackships to be taken and tested as a psyker if you have any psy ability.....adepts shouldnt get the ability period...and if they do get it (as brazenly as it shows AND with a suddenly potential faster progression from rating 1-3 than the actual psyker class since they have the potential to jump from rating 1 right to rating 3 if they spend the XP in the same level which is something regular psykers CANT do unless they want to spend the etra XP for the advance...but a adept can get it for regular cost....um ( can we say screw up or typo??? ).

Once you show psy ability its law that you be bound over for the Blackships and shipped off to Holy Terra for processing ( one way or the other). If the adepts get the potential ability then i think that ALL other classes should have the SAME opportunity to gain the psy ability ( afterall one of eisenhorns team members was a telekine assassin ). Does the Inquisition have the authority to ignore the rule reguarding the blackships if the newly found psyker is one of their own retinue? ( Eisenhorns tk assassin wasnt officially "sanctioned" if memory serves right ...in which case that would give Inquisitors the ability to ignore the rule if it applied to their own retinue of indentured servants...) But still doesnt go to solving or answering why a adept can get psy ability and none of the other normal classes can aquire them except through extraordinary ( chaotic) means....Can you please explain the reasoning, or, otherwise some sort of correction to the oversight if such is the case?

While I'm not FFG staff, most of this is easily explainable.

I noticed something interesting reguarding the Adepts listing in the DHCB.....on page 48 under Loremaster heading the option to take Psy Rating 1 and minor psy power ( up to 3 times ) then on pg 49 under Magister it offers the Psy Rating 2 AND 3 on the same table as well as minor psy power ( again up to 3 times at that rank)...Ive already checked the errata file for corrections to the inconsistencies here...there were none.

That would be because the advancements are fully intentional.

My question is this simply put.....HOW? you will loose your class and have to be stuck on the Blackships to be taken and tested as a psyker if you have any psy ability.....adepts shouldnt get the ability period...and if they do get it (as brazenly as it shows AND with a suddenly potential faster progression from rating 1-3 than the actual psyker class since they have the potential to jump from rating 1 right to rating 3 if they spend the XP in the same level which is something regular psykers CANT do unless they want to spend the etra XP for the advance...but a adept can get it for regular cost....um ( can we say screw up or typo??? ).

Actually, their progression is slower than that of a psyker - Psy rating 1 can be taken at 8000 XP, 2 and 3 at 10000 and 10300 (because it certainly can't be taken before Psy 2). The Imperial Psyker gets rating 1 at 0 XP, 2 at 500 and 3 at 2000. So apart from the adept starting his progression 8000 XP later, he finishes it 300 XP later, with the last advance costing a friendly 500 XP instead of the psyker's 200.

Once you show psy ability its law that you be bound over for the Blackships and shipped off to Holy Terra for processing ( one way or the other). If the adepts get the potential ability then i think that ALL other classes should have the SAME opportunity to gain the psy ability ( afterall one of eisenhorns team members was a telekine assassin ). [...] But still doesnt go to solving or answering why a adept can get psy ability and none of the other normal classes can aquire them except through extraordinary ( chaotic) means....Can you please explain the reasoning, or, otherwise some sort of correction to the oversight if such is the case?

If you take a look at the Radical's Handbook, several explanations were put forth on page 149, basically boiling down to the adept somehow discovering a connection to the Warp through study and mysterious and forbidden lores.
Depending on your take, this is either true psychic power or sorcery - in the second case, the Radical's suggests switching the advancements for Sorcerer, Master Sorcerer and a few Forbidden Lore advancements. In the first, it basically depends on your campaign whether the character takes a time-out to become sanctioned or... doesn't.
Further, other characters do have options to gain psychic powers: they merely need to take the Nascent Psyker elite package and follow it up with The Mind's Eye Opens when transitioning to Ascension status. But it's only the adept who is capable of discovering such powers in an at least partially controlled way.

Does the Inquisition have the authority to ignore the rule reguarding the blackships if the newly found psyker is one of their own retinue? ( Eisenhorns tk assassin wasnt officially "sanctioned" if memory serves right ...in which case that would give Inquisitors the ability to ignore the rule if it applied to their own retinue of indentured servants...)

The Inquisition... doesn't exist. At least not as a unified faction, for the most part. The authority of an Inquisitor, on the other hand, is defined very simply: He is authorized to do everything other Inquisitors and various figures of power (Imperial Governors, Lord-Generals, Fleet Admirals,...) let him get away with. If he believes that his Acolyte is strong enough to wield the powers he discovered without the help of sanctioning and doesn't loudly announce this decision, few people will bother to stop him - though such an acolyte might prove a useful piece of evidence to other Inquisitors trying to build a case and denounce the adept's master in conclave.

On a similar note, does the Mind's Eye Opens transition package allow an Adept to ascend into a Primaris Psyker?

Thanks for the info Cifer...mustve missed that info in the RHB...and it does pose some interesting ideas for plotlines though...however i was not aware of the nascent ability mentioned as i do not have the ascension book yet...still running with everything BEFORE it..so that info is currently out of my reach...but thanks for the heads up on it

nabs said:

Yes.

Cobramax76 said:

The Nascent Psyker advance package is actually in the Inquisitor's Handbook.

Bilateralrope said:

Indeed. As a matter of fact, I noticed that early on and asked Ross about it; back when Ross was spearheading Dark Heresy development. Posted the response here for all to see. The ascended career choices to transition into are the most common routes. There is always the option to go a different way provided your GM allows for it.

-=Brother Praetus=-

As always Brother Praetus my thanks...i saw the nascent spyker in the IHB but never bothered with it since i dont tend to use or allow psykers in the group till recently...but now that i am i do need to read up on these particulars to see whats what in them....

OK, let me pass on how this question was handled in the game I play in.

The Adept in question gained her abilities in game, while during a story arc. After that story arc was completed, she made the trip to Terra, was sanctioned, and returned to duty as an Adept, 5 years later.

Apparently this question had come up prior to these events, and someone in our group had contacted staff at FFG and received word that this was the proper way to do things.

As a group, you are left with 2 ways to handle things.

1 - Have the player go through the process. As a character, already experienced, the period for santioning is 5 years. Normally this would be a die roll of 3d10 years, if I recall correctly, but players who develop Psy powers, take only 5 years.

This could be truly annoying for the Adept player, to have to run a side character for an extended time. One could find their alternate character could be more experienced than their main, when the main finally returned.

or:

2 - Allow a 'break' of 5 years, for all characters. Allow those who are not going through the sanctioning process, to gain a couple elite packages during this or just give them extra experience to build on their trees a little. Also, if a player is willing to take extra time to write up what he or she actually did during the period, that player should gain some extra experience, based on what they did.

One more thing. For those of you who don't want to have a Psyker in your game, think of this... without the Psyker being available, I wouldn't play the game. While for some of you that wouldn't break your heart, having a Psyker around who knows what they're doing, can help add to a group's sucess tremendously. Having to deal with it, is part of the game, for the GM. OTH, a GM should never force someone to play the class, just to have one.