Guard at Riverrun

By Husemann, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

Guard at Riverrun's second ability states:

"At the end of the challenge phase, if no opponent has won a military challenge against you this turn, draw a card."

My questions is, if I have multiple of this card out, do I draw multiple cards at the end of the challenge phase? Or do all of the effects just simmer down to only getting one card?

This ability stacks. So you'd get three cards if you had three of them out.

Staton said:

This ability stacks. So you'd get three cards if you had three of them out.

"Stacks" is not really the right term as most people understand it. If you have three of these guys out, their abilities do not combine into a single ability that lets you draw 3 cards. Rather, you resolve each one of them separately and you draw 1 card 3 times.

I know this seems like a silly, nitpicky distinction since the end result (3 extra cards) is the same, but the larger principle - that each card is resolved separately even if you have multiple copies - is important for working with other effects, cancels, etc.

Great to know, thanks guys.

ktom said:

Staton said:

This ability stacks. So you'd get three cards if you had three of them out.

"Stacks" is not really the right term as most people understand it. If you have three of these guys out, their abilities do not combine into a single ability that lets you draw 3 cards. Rather, you resolve each one of them separately and you draw 1 card 3 times.

I know this seems like a silly, nitpicky distinction since the end result (3 extra cards) is the same, but the larger principle - that each card is resolved separately even if you have multiple copies - is important for working with other effects, cancels, etc.

The card does count towards the drawcap, doesn't it? So it is important to resolve one after the other if you are reaching your drawcap.

Sorry for reopening that old topic but I just got my LoW set and was wondering about the guard at riverrun as well. And as I'm still struggling with some game mechanics, I'd like to ask ...

Yes, it would still count toward the draw cap.

Ser Folly said:

The card does count towards the drawcap, doesn't it? So it is important to resolve one after the other if you are reaching your drawcap.

So, for example, if you have already drawn 2 cards this round, you would be allowed to trigger effects that said "draw 2 cards" or "draw 3 cards." But after you draw 1 of those 2 or 3 cards, you have to stop. The "3 card" cap is on how many you actually draw, not on how many the effects you initiate would allow you to draw. Make sense?

Yes somewhat, just a few hours ago I read something like that in the clarifications.

I'm having a hard time getting used to all these timeframe things,

Thanks for your efforts...here and in other topics! aplauso.gif