Building a backstory, need some help with the imperium

By E.X.A.-Puggy, in Rogue Trader

I'm trying to build a back story for my Astropath whom grew up on an imperial world.

What I want to know is; after reading the description in character creation over and over again. What kind of government rules in the 40K universe? I'm pretty sure it's more of a dictatorship, than anything else. I would like someone to tell me what it would be like for an imperial citizen in their every day life. Are males and females treated equally? How is the education of lower classes, middle classes, high classes and orphans? When you are born, does that make you a citizen? Or do you have to serve time in the military?

Being an Astropath, what would happen if the Psycher were to fail the soul-binding procedure and live? What about being fed to the Emperor?

A little bit of background about that question: My astropath "Didn't make the cut" and was going to be fed to the emperor, when he walked out of there soul-bound to the emperor instead.

What is life like for a potential psycher on a black ship if you came peacefully, or if you were taken kicking and screaming?

What I want to know is; after reading the description in character creation over and over again. What kind of government rules in the 40K universe? I'm pretty sure it's more of a dictatorship, than anything else. I would like someone to tell me what it would be like for an imperial citizen in their every day life. Are males and females treated equally? How is the education of lower classes, middle classes, high classes and orphans? When you are born, does that make you a citizen? Or do you have to serve time in the military?

That's the lovely bit about 40k background: Apart from the tithes that every planet has to observe (supply whatever the Imperium demands whenever it demands it; hand over your psykers; don't cooperate with the enemies of mankind; worship the god-emperor), the Imperium usually doesn't care. About anything. There has to be an imperial governor of the world, one the Imperium can blame for stuff going wrong. Whether he's elected democratically, whether he's an oligarch chosen from a few families or a hereditary monarch/dictator - the Imperium doesn't care as long as he gets the job done. Whether there's equality and prosperity, whether people are educated, whether there's a career army or everyone being drafted at some point - the Imperium doesn't care.

That said, most planets gravitate towards a pseudo-feudal class system with the nobles on top and pretty much everyone else scraping by. Too much education makes this state too volatile, so most people know what they need to know for doing their jobs.

While we're on the subject of orphans, however: There are the Schola Progenium, essentially orphanages crossed with military schools and academies of the Imperium. They're open to the children of semi-highly placed imperial officials only and being there usually means you'll go on to have a better chance in life than most. Depending on your abilities, you'll be placed in the Ecclesiarchy, the Imperial Guard Storm Troopers (or officer corps or commissars), the Administratum or the Adepta Sororitas.

Being an Astropath, what would happen if the Psycher were to fail the soul-binding procedure and live? What about being fed to the Emperor?

A little bit of background about that question: My astropath "Didn't make the cut" and was going to be fed to the emperor, when he walked out of there soul-bound to the emperor instead.

Sounds a little bit too much like special snow-flake syndrome to me. The feeding to the Emperor most likely doesn't involve being physically fed to the Emperor, but rather being connected to lots of machinery that essentially sucks your soul out and channels it into the big guy.

What is life like for a potential psycher on a black ship if you came peacefully, or if you were taken kicking and screaming?

Both cases are usually depressingly similar - think slave ship from Africa to America, add more psychic restraints and drugs.

E.X.A.-Puggy said:

I'm trying to build a back story for my Astropath whom grew up on an imperial world.

good for you!

What I want to know is; after reading the description in character creation over and over again.

What kind of government rules in the 40K universe?

Its effectively a devolved dictatorship. The dicatator being a rotting carcass bound in a arcane-technological machine that acts as a lighthouse. The actually day to day running of the Imperium (if with the vagarities of warp travel such a thing exists) is done by the High Lords of terra, who are representatives of the various organs of state. The most important of which paradoxically is the master of the administratum, who is the boss of the Imperiums bloated, monolithic and ossified bureaucracy -the scribes and pen pushers who keep a impossible tally and toll of all the data. Its so bad that a administrative error can lead to whole worlds being forgotten or ignored, or relief efforts arriving centuries out of date. The planets pretty much are at all different levels of technology and society, but there is usually one guy- a governor that answers to the imperium. This could be a elected president, a feudal like emperor, a sector spanning imperial noble of some standing, or just a guy sitting in a space station over a world where feral humans scrap for resources or any number of variations. The tying factor is that depending on the planets classification all of them have a tithe to pay to the imperium which again varies on the planets class and politics.

I'm pretty sure it's more of a dictatorship, than anything else. I would like someone to tell me what it would be like for an imperial citizen in their every day life.

The default mode that is presented by Games Workshop is " Serfs in space', that is to say everyone is kind of a peasant owing fealty to a feudal lord, which crops up in the literature and backstories again and again. However it is really up to you. You can create a world not too disimilar to our own, where the imperium is a distant tale whispered by conspiracy theorists. Its up to you.There are various classes of imperial worlds. A man or woman living in a hive world will have a different experience than one living on a feral world. The basic concept that goes its that there is a vastly different types of planets and societies

Are males and females treated equally?

Again depends on the planets classification and varies with societies. But as the default fluff of the imperium is feudal in nature, I would in the stories women sadly usually take a second to men, but hey basic GM is market orientated towards the 14-18 teenage boys range. However as a Astropath there should be no problem. They are too valuable to the imperium to be treated with anything else but respect and not a bit of trepidation irrespective of gender. As part of a rogue trader crew the distinction between men and women is almost nil. Each one survives on the merits and skills.

How is the education of lower classes, middle classes, high classes and orphans? When you are born, does that make you a citizen? Or do you have to serve time in the military?

Varies with planets- Far too varied, but as a default mode I would say:

Education:

Lower: Zero to poor- with some sunday school training from missionary zealots who preach the greatness of the undying emperor. Again think peasants in space.

Middle: Slighly more. Think belonging to a merchant guil and learning the skills of your familys trade on a planet.

High Classes: medium to ridiculously high. A backwater noble is hardly going to get the same training as a a scion of a majour sector house. For details see the Inquisitors handbook to get idea of the skill sets noble tend to learn, like diplomacy and such like.

Orphans: Either zero to poor, with the exception of the orphan sons of major imperial servants: They tend to go to something called the schola progenium, which is kind of like a jesuit School in space, that turns out Inquisitors, commissars and storm troopers etc.., people who are almost fantaically devoted to the imperiums cause (with one famous commisar being the exception) Again for futher details try and find a copy of the Inquisitors handbook.

Citizenship: Technically you are being human makes you an Imperial citizen and yes that includes Space Marines Ratlings Ogryns and 99% machine techpriets, unless you turn into a mutant or traitor or a raw psker in which case you have the legal rights below that of a germ- the exception being sanctioned psykers and navigators.The reality is that its a brutal galaxy and if you are on the lower social rungs no one gives a **** if you live or die, only how productive or usefull you are to the greater Imperium. Human rights are sooo 2K.

Military: Depending on the planets class... Some of them because of their class are required to assemble a PDF- not a computer document but a 'planetray defence force'. Also as part of their tithes some planets, again depending on their class are required to creme off their better soldiers to serve in the imperial guard where they get transported to some hellhole and are expected to clog the opponents guns with their bodies. Thats right... in the table top game the cannon fooder grunts that die in droves are the elite, only really bettered by storm troopers or the elites that survived clogging the opponets muzzles. I seem to remember reading somewhere that one in ten of the PDF are tithed, but I may be wrong.

Being an Astropath, what would happen if the Psycher were to fail the soul-binding procedure and live?

You become a astropath 'after' the soul binding procedure. And thats because you were deemed not strong enough to hold the temptations of the warp on your own and need to 'be one with the emperor', that is to say immunised. If you fail you are usually dead burnt out husk or just plain mad and are probably put down.. I seem to remember there being something about the adeptus astronomica...but I cant bring it to mind.

What about being fed to the Emperor?

Ah thats if you are a psyker and A) You're not good enough to be a sanctioned psker and B) Not good enough to be a astropath. In which case you are plugged into a arcane machine and leeached dry to feed tha master of mankind. Quite grim when you think that even children are subjected to this. Apparently the Emperor has a voratious appetite, although to be fair in a whole millenia he hasnt put on any weight.

A little bit of background about that question: My astropath "Didn't make the cut" and was going to be fed to the emperor, when he walked out of there soul-bound to the emperor instead.

Mmmmm not sure what you are getting at. You could be putting it down to a delayed reaction. Im not sure if they feed ones that have been through the soul bounding procedure back to the emperor. You could put it that just as they were going to strap your astropath into the machine, the soul binding kicks in with a vengence. Then you could say that they the relative time spent non soul bound, made you him/her not quite unsuitable for the astropathic choir singing and metal e-mailing. Soul bound but having too much of a restless spirit. Hence thats why you were bundled on a rogue trader ship. You prefer it out there on the galaxy fringes. Or something. Maybe others have a better idea.

What is life like for a potential psycher on a black ship if you came peacefully, or if you were taken kicking and screaming?

Apparently its grim. If you can get a hold of the the Inquisition war Triliogy by Ian Watson (I think the first book Draco/Inquisitor) It has a description of the ship. Some of them are aware of whats going to happen, other have no idea. You get treated as if you are a live stick of dynamite whaether you go peacefully or not. A bit a like raw unprocessed substance, whch has to be refined. That which can be used, and they are few, are made into psykers which are barely tolerated but vital to the Imperium. The vast majority get used as emperor petrol to keep the astronomicon beacon going. If you cause them any more problems major problems while in a black ship, unless they think youre something special they are just going to incinerate you. Pleanty more out there...infact the inquisition struggles with too many pskers and deviant witches. They have no patience for kicking and screaming.

Anybody out there remember what the Adeptus Astronomica is about, I know that they are the choir singers that make the astronomicon 'brighter' but I cant rememeber where they fit in the whole psyker soul binding procedure, if they are indeed bound

Cool thanks for the input.

This gives me a guideline to tweek my story. and hopefully not be to out there. Please keep it coming the more info the better!

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I though that psykers were put into some sort of stasis capsule while in the black ships ? Psyker control devices aren't reliable enough to be used to contain so many psykers during so much time (I don't remember if it is in ascension or in the inquisitor handbook, but some sort of psychic nullifier machine is described, and I wouldn't bet my life on it...).

I though that psykers were put into some sort of stasis capsule while in the black ships ? Psyker control devices aren't reliable enough to be used to contain so many psykers during so much time (I don't remember if it is in ascension or in the inquisitor handbook, but some sort of psychic nullifier machine is described, and I wouldn't bet my life on it...).

Nullifiers aren't completely reliable, but they aren't the only system in place - when a psyker breaks through them and manifests powers, he'll generally be killed. If that doesn't work, it's always an option to simply vent the entire cell block into space.

Stasis fields for hundreds or thousands of psykers are probably too costly (and simply not available on this scale), although I could see them being used for psykers deemed "more valuable" for some reason.

See, i thought (That's what i get eh?) that while on the black ship there were classes etc. probably thinking too fluffy for 40k with that half baked idea.

I can see them dopeing you, tossing you in a void cell and saying "if you twitch, you will meet the emperor soon enough."

E.X.A.-Puggy said:

See, i thought (That's what i get eh?) that while on the black ship there were classes etc. probably thinking too fluffy for 40k with that half baked idea.

I can see them dopeing you, tossing you in a void cell and saying "if you twitch, you will meet the emperor soon enough."

If its a psyker its more likely to be one of the ruinous powers.

...Tasty treats for she who thirsts...

Slannesh has a particular liking for them

True. Khorne probably treats them as hot dogs. Tzeentch as amusing pawns in the cosmic chess match he plays against himself and Nurgle...god knows what he does with their souls...something disgustingly 'gregarious' no doubt.

True. Khorne probably treats them as hot dogs. Tzeentch as amusing pawns in the cosmic chess match he plays against himself and Nurgle...god knows what he does with their souls...something disgustingly 'gregarious' no doubt.

A couple of notes here:

-Orphans- The Schola Progenium is generally reserved for the children of those who gave their lives in the service of the Emperor. There are more standard schools, and orphanages but these aren't run by the Imperium, but instead by the planetary government. The Schola Progenium turns out adepts, comminsars, storm troopers, arbiters Adepta Sororitas, and occasionaly inquisitors*. Most of the Inquisitors that are psykers started out in the Schola.

*Note that a schola grad is never made an Inquisitor out of the gate. He/she 1st must serve decades as an Interrogator or other less rank under an Inquisitor. It's also possibly, but rare for an accolyte not raised in the Schola to rise to the rank of Inquisitor.

-Role of Women- The Imperium itself is gender blind to some degree. A given planet might restrict women to certain roles, while other take little note of the sex of it's people. Some planets have coed or even all women Guard regiments.