Sorry if this has probably already been discussed to death on these boards, but it’s new to me as a green player (had Armada for years, but only really got into it with Clone Wars coming).

Isn’t the Starhawk supposed to be New Republic in it’s story line?

If so, doesn’t that mean there is no distinction between rebels/resistance and empire/first order at least where Armada is concerned? And to that end, doesn’t that mean that prequel ships are fair game without a new release like the Clone Wars needing to happen where they create two new factions?

Not really a fan of the prequels, but I like new ships, and I was just curious as to what the consensus was or if FFG AMG has said something about that.

SH is New Republic, still fighting Imp remnants.

First Order is sequel-land.

9 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

SH is New Republic, still fighting Imp remnants.

First Order is sequel-land.

But the resistance is part of the New Republic (though not officially) and if it’s no longer the Empire the Rebels New Republic are fighting, but it’s the Imperial Remnant that means we’re already talking about two different affiliations/organization than Rebels and Empire. I know this seems like a fine line, but a line needs to be drawn somewhere and as it was mentioned in the Mandalorian, “The empire doesn’t exist any more...” ~ the Mandalorian

The Starhawk project started during the Galactic Civil War by the Rebel Alliance, and was introduced into service right around the time that the Alliance declared themselves the New Republic, but it was before the GCW finished.

All of the ships and fighters (MC85, Neb-c, T-70 xwing, RZ2 Awing, etc) that the Resistance use in the Sequel Trilogy were introduced into the NR fleet at least a few years later than the Starhawk.

To me it seems like the Starhawk is probably the last ship designed and used in the GCW, which is the major delineation point for the Rebel Alliance faction in the game.

7 minutes ago, JediPartisan said:

But the resistance is part of the New Republic (though not officially) and if it’s no longer the Empire the Rebels New Republic are fighting, but it’s the Imperial Remnant that means we’re already talking about two different affiliations/organization than Rebels and Empire. I know this seems like a fine line, but a line needs to be drawn somewhere and as it was mentioned in the Mandalorian, “The empire doesn’t exist any more...” ~ the Mandalorian

Same applies to the E-wing and I'm sure other stuff.

I simply draw the line at the mention of the First Order. Once that happens, I'm out.

1 hour ago, JediPartisan said:

Isn’t the Starhawk supposed to be New Republic in it’s story line?

Yes. But they are Galactic Civil War era ships - built during the Civil War, present at the Battle of Jakku.

Rather than thinking in terms of factions, think in terms of eras/conflicts; the Prequel Era is the Clone Wars (Republic v Separatists later Confederacy), the OT Era is the Galactic Civil War (Empire v Rebel Alliance later New Republic), and the Sequel Era is ... we don't really have a name for the conflict yet, but is Resistance v First Order (with the Empire and Republic still around, just not really involved).

The lack of Starhawks in the Sequel Trilogy suggests that not many of them were made (we know of 3 plus the prototype, with only one surviving past the Battle of Jakku), and maybe the New Republic relied mostly on MC cruisers (variants of the MC75, 80, 85 and 95) many of which are present at the Battle of Exegol.

Starhawks were built before the Battle of Jakku, the last effective battle against the Empire's surviving chain of command.

59 minutes ago, JediPartisan said:

But the resistance is part of the New Republic (though not officially)

The Resistance formed after the emergence of the First Order and the New Republic was revealed to be gunshy about getting involved in a new conflict. While there are a lot of Resistance sympathizers in the New Republic, they're not able to openly express their support.

1 hour ago, JediPartisan said:

but it’s the Imperial Remnant

In the old EU/Legends (no longer "canon"), the Imperial Remnant was a distinct faction with a somewhat recognizable organizational structure. In the new canon, Imperial remnants are disorganized, mostly-independent warlords who never left the known galaxy; the First Order is specifically formed from a fleet that left for the Unknown Regions for several decades.

These things are squishy. Jango Fett, for example, is aligned with the Separatists in X-Wing even though there’s an argument to be made that he should probably be Scum (his Separatists loyalties being mostly contractual, after all). But Scum already had Boba Fett and the faction needed a heavy hitter — thus, Jango goes to the Separatists.

And so it goes with the Starhawk. It’s neither Resistance or Rebel, but it’s closer to the latter than the former (and the faction needed an SSD/Onager counterpart). Grumbleduke’s comment regarding eras, rather than organizations, gets it right.