DTT isn't popular bc it largely sucks...

57 minutes ago, Captain Corvid said:

DTT doesn't add a die.

DTT is very similar to the reroll aspect of LTT. DTT happens after you roll attack dice, like LTT -- not before as some players think. The difference with DTT is that the rolled die that you choose to remove can be any colour, and it gets replaced with a red die that you then roll. Whereas LTT just rerolls a red die. It's a small difference.

I believe the reason why DTT wasn't as popular was because it was exclusive to the Imperial Light Cruiser (Arquitens) expansion, which has always been difficult to acquire. So even though it's 2 points cheaper, it never caught on the way that LTT did. LTT also has greater versatility thanks to its anti-squadron attack.

Also, DTT is a Mod, so that was another reason why it couldn't be equipped sometimes.

No, it does actually ADD a die. I agree that the net effect is a reroll. But the card itself specifically says 'add a red die'.

1 hour ago, flatpackhamster said:

I agree that the net effect is a reroll.

DTT is slightly better than a reroll, as it is a reroll that can't get worse.

2 hours ago, Green Knight said:

DTT isn't popular bc it largely sucks...

DTT was useful for the Arquitens because before LTT, the Arq couldn't equip any cards that granted rerolls, which was a big problem for a primarily red dice ship. With DTT, if the Arq got into range with its front or rear arcs, it could remove a black blank die or an unnecessary blue accuracy, to add a red die and roll for a better result. It made sense for the Arquitens, whereas LTT can't help with the Arq's black or blue dice.

DTT was less useful on other ships because they had other reroll options and were better off equipping something else in the valuable Turbolaser slot.

Now LTT essentially does the same thing as DTT with an added strong anti-squadron attack for only 2 points more.

Another factor is that Rebellion in the Rim came with 2 LTT cards so they're far more common and accessible than DTT.

You also have the salvo problem with DTT. At least you can reroll one red in your salvo with LTT.

30 minutes ago, Aahz 1 said:

You also have the salvo problem with DTT. At least you can reroll one red in your salvo with LTT.

Yes, Salvo and LTT synergize well together, unsurprisingly because they were introduced at the same time.

DTT was introduced with the Arquitens in 2016, so they couldn't anticipate the introduction of Salvo.

However, supposedly DTT has been updated in the UCC, so it might work differently now.

DTT does have a use with Salvation. Outside of that, well...

28 minutes ago, Captain Corvid said:

However, supposedly DTT has been updated in the UCC, so it might work differently now.

Yeah, I wondered if they might be fixing it, but the new DTT language above still says “add a die” so unless they clarify it works with salvo somehow, seems like it still won’t work. I guess we’ll see really soon!

There are legitimate uses for DTT outside of just a reroll. It's important to note it adds a red, but takes away any die from the pool. SCBT comes to mind. Remove a black in your ignition attack to add a red and maybe get another crit.

56 minutes ago, FoxOmega44 said:

There are legitimate uses for DTT outside of just a reroll. It's important to note it adds a red, but takes away any die from the pool. SCBT comes to mind. Remove a black in your ignition attack to add a red and maybe get another crit.

Modification.

1 minute ago, Formynder4 said:

Modification.

Only an example of the type of thing I'm talking about.

What about what I call the Xtra Medium SSD?

Ravager, Krennic, Kallus, DTT, LTT. Have a named squad at medium range? How about you roll 7 red dice with some rerolls thrown in for good measure.

Even ships when they roll into medium range. Replace a blue with a red and get to reroll it with krennic.

I find the lack of imagination disturbing here, guys.

Point is, it is NOT just a reroll. It allows you to control the make up of your pool. There might not be many options to take advantage of that right now, but I can at least see a door that has been left open for possible future exploitation.

DTT is an Informed reroll. If you are only making a single attack, there is no reason not to use it for a ship as you literally can't roll worse with it unless maybe you roll something unlikely like all double hits or something.

1 hour ago, FoxOmega44 said:

Ravager, Krennic, Kallus, DTT, LTT. Have a named squad at medium range? How about you roll 7 red dice with some rerolls thrown in for good measure.

you roll 7 dice but count only 6 for damage

32 minutes ago, Wolf_58 said:

you roll 7 dice but count only 6 for damage

Nah. Red, blue native. Add 2 red for LTT. Add 2 red for Ravager. Add 1 red for Kallus. Change the blue to a red through DTT. Begin rerolls with Krennic and LTT.

5 hours ago, FoxOmega44 said:

Point is, it is NOT just a reroll. It allows you to control the make up of your pool. There might not be many options to take advantage of that right now, but I can at least see a door that has been left open for possible future exploitation.

I think Caitken and Shollan should get a mention here...

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Proximity Mines card still broken?

33 minutes ago, Norell said:

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Proximity Mines card still broken?

in what way?

1 hour ago, Norell said:

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Proximity Mines card still broken?

When was it originally broken?

1 hour ago, Norell said:

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Proximity Mines card still broken?

Was it ever?

7 hours ago, Norell said:

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Proximity Mines card still broken?

Do you mean we still don't know why it says "beyond distance 5 of enemy ships"?

If you mean "broken" as in "overpowered," then I don't really think so.

Just as an aside, but reading the rule revisions and the revised text of DTT, I think you still can’t use DTT with salvo.

Correct.

4 hours ago, Bertie Wooster said:

Do you mean we still don't know why it says "beyond distance 5 of enemy ships"?

If you mean "broken" as in "overpowered," then I don't really think so.

The former. It's not overpowered, just cannot be used. And they didn't fix it.

2 minutes ago, Norell said:

The former. It's not overpowered, just cannot be used. And they didn't fix it.

Why can it not be used now?