28 minutes ago, KaLeu said:Speaking of capitalism, here‘s Disney newest story about it:
tl;dr
Disney has not paid Alan Dean Foster a single dime royalties for his Star Wars books because „they didn‘t bought the obligations of his contract when they acquired Lucasfilm and the rights for his books.“
I can not imagine where it is folks acquire such a low opinion of lawyers from. /s
That is appalling.
Here's a nice write-up from the representatives of Mr. Foster:
Has anyone heard if the devs were given an option? Some people on the Legion boards pointed out that some devs may have been given the choice to physically move to the new business and declined and that’s why they were laid off, but those posters admitted they just didn’t know and it’s all speculation.
10 hours ago, >kkj said:Did you know that it's possible to criticize the bad aspects of capitalism without immediately advocating full socialism/communism?
Sorry, but American’s aversion to socialist programs (which is not socialism as it relates to communism), is kind of shocking.
4 minutes ago, JediPartisan said:Has anyone heard if the devs were given an option? Some people on the Legion boards pointed out that some devs may have been given the choice to physically move to the new business and declined and that’s why they were laid off, but those posters admitted they just didn’t know and it’s all speculation.
Sorry, but American’s aversion to socialist programs (which is not socialism as it relates to communism), is kind of shocking.
What shocks me the most, is that many americans dont even seem to KNOW the concept of social democracy. They think its just some sort of fancy name for socialism. When in reality its a mix of capitalistic free markets and social programs inspired by socialist ideas.
Edited by >kkj51 minutes ago, >kkj said:What shocks me the most, is that many americans dont even seem to KNOW the concept of social democracy. They think its just some sort of fancy name for socialism. When in reality its a mix of capitalistic free markets and social programs inspired by socialist ideas.
There’s a real lack of education in America when it comes to civics.
Edited by ninclouse2000There's a real lack of education or awareness in other parts of the world as to what an American actually knows. Just cause it's on the internet doesn't mean its truth. Broad-based assumptions are also, just that, assumptions.
Snobbery is just another form of ignorance.
2 minutes ago, buckero0 said:There's a real lack of education or awareness in other parts of the world as to what an American actually knows. Just cause it's on the internet doesn't mean its truth. Broad-based assumptions are also, just that, assumptions.
Snobbery is just another form of ignorance.
I live in a very rural part of America. A civics test should be required before voting. Social programs like Medicare for all would help these people in rural areas tremendously but they hear the S word and they vote against it.
1 hour ago, >kkj said:What shocks me the most, is that many americans dont even seem to KNOW the concept of social democracy. They think its just some sort of fancy name for socialism. When in reality its a mix of capitalistic free markets and social programs inspired by socialist ideas.
Social democracy only really survives when capitalists need to disincentive people from socialism. Since the coup/dissolution of the USSR, social democracy all over had been rapidly hollowed out by neoliberalism. Social democracy isn't sustainable without the threat of socialist reforms or revolutions.
People really should advocate socialism, which is where the means of production are controlled through some democratic mechanism, and not based off of inheritance. Social democracy is harm reduction, but harm reduction isn't good enough, especially when we've seen how easily social democracy is rolled back by the bourgeoisie when it doesn't suit their interests any longer
24 minutes ago, ninclouse2000 said:I live in a very rural part of America. A civics test should be required before voting. Social programs like Medicare for all would help these people in rural areas tremendously but they hear the S word and they vote against it.
Effectively having no medical bills - ever - it's not as bad as some would have it.
4 minutes ago, Green Knight said:Effectively having no medical bills - ever - it's not as bad as some would have it.
Dreaming of the day socialized medicine is a non-issue. Hate to think of all the extra bad that comes with losing a job in the states.
44 minutes ago, ExplosiveTooka said:Social democracy only really survives when capitalists need to disincentive people from socialism. Since the coup/dissolution of the USSR, social democracy all over had been rapidly hollowed out by neoliberalism. Social democracy isn't sustainable without the threat of socialist reforms or revolutions.
People really should advocate socialism, which is where the means of production are controlled through some democratic mechanism, and not based off of inheritance. Social democracy is harm reduction, but harm reduction isn't good enough, especially when we've seen how easily social democracy is rolled back by the bourgeoisie when it doesn't suit their interests any longer
Yeah i was aware of the historical origins of social democracy. (Im german and it was bismarck after all who invented insurances as a "payoff" to the public wanting socialism). You are absolutely right with everything you said.
The problem with capitalism (as I said in the X-Wing forums, and it didn’t go over very well, but here goes), I’d that it embraces the profit motive as its highest ideal. Societal happiness, wellness, and safety are secondary concerns (if they’re concerns at all), and the Almighty Dollar drives everything exclusively. As long as *someone* is making money, capitalism is “working,” despite the fact that many (or even most) people may be laboring under crushing poverty, and the oceans may be boiling away, and the air may be unbreathable, and good people may be losing jobs for no other reason than some French guy who owns a private equity firm needs another vacation home.
Everyone imagines capitalism as this self-correcting system that protects the consumer because it needs them to buy products, but it really doesn’t work that way.
Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled plastic spaceship discussion. And best of luck to the people getting screwed by corporate nonsense.
37 minutes ago, Cpt ObVus said:The problem with capitalism (as I said in the X-Wing forums, and it didn’t go over very well, but here goes), I’d that it embraces the profit motive as its highest ideal. Societal happiness, wellness, and safety are secondary concerns (if they’re concerns at all), and the Almighty Dollar drives everything exclusively. As long as *someone* is making money, capitalism is “working,” despite the fact that many (or even most) people may be laboring under crushing poverty, and the oceans may be boiling away, and the air may be unbreathable, and good people may be losing jobs for no other reason than some French guy who owns a private equity firm needs another vacation home.
Everyone imagines capitalism as this self-correcting system that protects the consumer because it needs them to buy products, but it really doesn’t work that way.
Capitalism is way better than the alternative.
12 minutes ago, Bravo Null said:Capitalism is way better than the alternative.
Tell that to Switzerland, Sweden and Denmark.
30 minutes ago, Bravo Null said:Capitalism is way better than the alternative.
What is "the" alternative? Since you seem to be so sure of a specific one
48 minutes ago, ninclouse2000 said:Tell that to Switzerland, Sweden and Denmark.
Shout out to all the Cuban and Venezuelan Armada players. By the way, they are all capitalist.
Edited by BigPoppaPalpatine12 minutes ago, BigPoppaPalpatine said:Shout out to all the Cuban and Venezuelan Armada players. By the way, they are all capitalist.
You may want to take a civics course.
1 minute ago, ninclouse2000 said:You may want to take a civics course.
Ditto. And maybe stop making a game forum a political statement?
41 minutes ago, >kkj said:What is "the" alternative? Since you seem to be so sure of a specific one
Mostly Socialism, 'cause that's the big one. There ARE others, but that's the main one being tossed around that's a problem.
1 hour ago, ninclouse2000 said:Tell that to Switzerland, Sweden and Denmark.
They are VERY different countries then the USA, for any Americans. Some aspects of Socialism are nice, like more taxes if you earn more.
1 minute ago, BigPoppaPalpatine said:And maybe stop making a game forum a political statement?
Agreed. I'm (Hopefully) done.
1 hour ago, Bravo Null said:Capitalism is way better than the alternative.
Tell that to the guys who just got laid off at FFG.
Capitalism has a great marketing machine behind it, which has convinced everyone we can’t do any better than capitalism. There are many, many alternatives, and many of them would be far more equitable than the untethered, deregulated capitalist system we have now. And the best alternatives would probably incorporate certain aspects of the current system.
Never let anyone convince you that there is a dichotomous black or white answer to complicated issues. Everything is almost always shades of grey.
27 minutes ago, ninclouse2000 said:You may want to take a civics course.
But they ARE capitalist. They do not have democratic ownership of the means of production. They have free markets (though stronger regulated then other countries), they have private ownership, etc. They are definately capitalist countries. Do not confuse social democracy with socialism please. These countries fall under the "Social Democratic"-Welfare State model, one out of the three models (or four, if you wanna count the southern european one too) of Welfare States: Liberal (USA for example), Conservative (UK, Germany) and Social Democratic (Skandinavian Countries). The southern european model puts a bigger focus on the family, like in Italy and Greece. I had to study this back in my social work studies. Esping-Andersen (among many others) wrote extensively about it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Worlds_of_Welfare_Capitalism
Edited by >kkj11 minutes ago, >kkj said:But they ARE capitalist. They do not have democratic ownership of the means of production. They have free markets (though stronger regulated then other countries), they have private ownership, etc. They are definately capitalist countries. Do not confuse social democracy with socialism please. These countries fall under the "Social Democratic"-Welfare State model, one out of the three models (or four, if you wanna count the southern european one too) of Welfare States: Liberal (USA for example), Conservative (UK, Germany) and Social Democratic (Skandinavian Countries). The southern european model puts a bigger focus on the family, like in Italy and Greece. I had to study this back in my social work studies. Esping-Andersen (among many others) wrote extensively about it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Worlds_of_Welfare_Capitalism
Nah, you have to take a civics class too. Want to join me?
1 minute ago, BigPoppaPalpatine said:Nah, you have to take a civics class too. Want to join me?
I'm gonna assume that is irony
What? You don't want to be my classmate? I promise I don't smell.
😄
Just now, >kkj said:I'm gonna assume that is irony
Also worthy to assume it's trolling.
